The most ZEN camera ever made

Thanks for another great video. The Leica TL and the Hasselblad X1D were both groundbreaking cameras from the same time, which should serve as an example of how a user interface should be (and maybe the Zeiss ZX1 too). Simple, beautifully styled and very intuitive.
I opted for the CL over the TL2 because I liked the integrated viewfinder better, but would not have minded a CL with the TL2's menu system. I think Leica should have equipped them with a dual user interface, so you can select a 'new' or 'classic' interface, depending on your preferences.
The current generation who learns photography on smartphones, will like the TL2's interface a whole lot more than of any other camera on the market today. It is the future that didn't make it to mainstream. I would have loved to see a TL3 without an SD card, internal storage for photos and instead a sim card slot and a 5G internet connection, so you could sync photos straight to the cloud. That should in my view be the future of that camera, and any camera for that matter.

Petr. Killing it! You've put your finger on the real issue for someone who is interested photography as an art. Or at least artis-Tic. I've been searching for a zen camera for me. Seems like I know too much about cameras to be able to make a decision. Probably a common problem! I thought many times about the Sigma fp as a likely candidate, but those 2 Leicas are a good fit for someone who loves usability and clean design. Esp the TL.

ZEN camera. So ZEN nobody remembers.

Nonsense video. Buttons, ergonomics, shape are essentially the same as every other compact camera that Sony, canon put out. It was just v expensive version.

it looks just like my old Sony A5100, not unique at all.

"Zen" = nonsense. 🤣

A camera without a viewfinder is a pain when operating in harsh sunlight.

Another mediocre, over priced, under-featured Leica trophy camera for insecure photographers more concerned with their image than the image. The Fuji X-E4 for example is cheaper, lighter, more versatile and customizable with tilting screen, viewfinder and comparable IQ. The Leica "mystique" is complete marketing BS.

Photographers - idiots, of which there are so many say, "Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great photographs." That's the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It's nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking and interest. - Andreas Feininger

Love Leica but do not understand why they gave up on APS C. I am looking for the TL2 used in germany.

Thanks for doing another video on the TL2. It’s truly a hard hitting heavyweight champion that never gets the credit it deserves. The photos out of it look full frame and the colors are outstanding. I’ve shot with other cameras from Pentax full frame, Fuji, etc and none of them come close to the feeling of the photos out of the TL2. Can’t put my finger exactly what it is but there a certain natural beauty to the pictures. They don’t look AI polished, over sharpened, etc. The objects pop in a 3d manner, etc. The design is also still one of the sexiest I’ve ever seen. Leica paired with an Audi designer on the T series camera and they sure nailed it! I can agree with you on the yes and no. The AF can sometimes leave you wishing it was better unless you have very bright settings. Also, even though the bodies are discontinued and can be found cheap, the native lenses still hold their prices quite high. In the US, the 35 1.4 still averages around $1600 used (it is a KILLER lens though!). And if you’re shooting in cold weather, it will feel VERY cold since it’s a block of aluminum.

Isn't this camera has been discontinued few years ago ?

Thanks for doing a video on the CL/TL system. I mainly use a CL now but keep the original T. Design, colour and handling of all these caneras is just fine. I used several Sony cameras before switching to Leica, and am not missing them.

I'm still waiting for your Sigma 18-50mm L mount review. No pressure though.

when using evf (looking from the evf 020 ) can you make touch focus af?

Another nice video Petr, keep up the good work, you are right on your assessment. I have an A7iii but also got the TL2 with the 18 and 23 mm lenses both are very nice the camera is like a an expensive car that everyone familiar or not comments on it.

It’s a Panasonic Lumix DMC-LC1

Moving on

Thanks for a honest opinion. Maybe in hand I would love this camera but just watching through internet I still couldn't feel comfortable without a viewfinder to get what I see with my eyes, the fixed display make it complicated for low angle shots, the lenses gor the system are few and not optically corrected, and the worse part is that in this age of smartphones U.I.s based in touchscreens are quite boring. I can set my Fujifilm X100S to use the optical viewfinder, a recipe to have a perfect jpeg, and I am ready to enjoy a device that feels more like a steam-punk mechanical machine than another modern gadget. With this I am not saying the Leica is a bad camera, for what I see on Flickr this is a wonderful tool in capable hands, just I think its characteristics are meant for a niche audience with a narrow set of requirements, which the X100 line is as well.

Last year I sold my T to purchase the CL. But I always missed the experience of simply holding its unique body shape and using it.
So when I saw a TL2 locally for sale with the Visoflex and the Leica M-adapter, I immediately bought it.

Now I have the CL ánd the TL2 lol. Now I’m holding on to both.

Big screen，friendly OS ,take good picture as leica m

Leica got of APS-C.

最近TLを購入しました。
どのカメラもメニューが複雑で機能を覚えられない。
私はCANON、SONYのカメラを持ってますが、いまだに理解してない機能がメニューの中にたくさんあります。
しかしこのカメラは、全てのカメラの中で１番使いやすいUIをしてると思いました。なんて使いやすいメニュー！

The simplicity of Leica cameras with all their quirks makes shooting enjoyable. I recently bought the Fuji X100VI and the menu drove crazy how awkward it is.

"There is one camera, that is completely different"
proceeds to show camera thats exactly what you expect

Great Video

I'm considering buying a NEW in box Leica T in 2024 (maybe madness), and wanted to know if you shoot in RAW only or RAW and jpeg.

damn bro, now i "need" this. My wallet ran to hide 😆

I have several cameras, but the TL2 is my favorite. I like the shape & size of this camera, along with the image quality. I plan to use it until it breaks and I can no longer get it repaired. Leica says they'll support it for 6 years beyond my purchase so I hope to fully utilize it during (and hopefully after) that period.

It's 2024 august and I am thinking of buying a TL2 as an accompanying camera next to my Panasonic S9 and Sigma compact prime lenses including the Sigma 17mm/F4. The only reason of buying is the compatibility with the Leica Visoflex tilting external electronic viewfinder. I simply love tilting-up EVFs, and since now with the fantastic S9, I am in the L mount world, this is the only option to get a tiltup EVF camera. I was really sorry that Panasonic didn't make the S9 compatible with Leica Visoflex. MPB has a number of TL2 silver models for €1100 - 1300 EUR with 6 months warranty, as well as Visoflex Typ 020 EVFs for €320, so, the total would be €1600 a hefty price, but hey, you will have a brilliant Leica camera with excellent touch screen and tilt-up EVF all with 6 month warranty.

Looks like Leica sent you an essay and you're reading it from the teleprompter like a poem. Nice job.
How much did they pay you.

Totally agree with what you have said here. I have recently got a like-new CL and it has become daily user. For my semi-pro work I use the Lumix S1 & R and S5m2x. So all the lenses integrate and use my old M Leica glass too. It’s nice to put the small APSC lenses on the S1R as they still return 20mp photos.

Well, only 39% 5 star on Amazon. I think thats all one has to know about the TL2.

Yes... all serious photographers use leica. Wedding photographers, photojournalism professionals, studio photographers. They all use leica, for its value, cost effective lenses, and versatility.

😅😂😂😅 😝😜🙄

I wouldn't call it ahead of its time. Lack of phase detect in 2016 is more "behind the curve".