What Makes An Extraction Shooter Fun & How Do You Balance It? - Pogcast 223

What Makes An Extraction Shooter Fun & How Do You Balance It? - Pogcast 223

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@britzolas
@britzolas - 20.10.2024 20:54

Hello?

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@highlanderofthelast710
@highlanderofthelast710 - 20.10.2024 20:55

Hell yeah 💛

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@coldcircuit99
@coldcircuit99 - 20.10.2024 21:08

I would love to see some single player extraction shooter with nice story and interesting maps.

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@notmynameanymore941
@notmynameanymore941 - 20.10.2024 21:19

key in every chance I get, despite me, as of writing, feeling kinda burned out on tarky --maybe idk.

feeling like how I felt when i used to play apex. meh-> liked it -> loved it with the bois -> mehhhhhh -> 'I dont even feel like clicking on it but I dont WANT to say im done."

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@hend0wski
@hend0wski - 20.10.2024 21:38

calling the homies chat is not a main character thing by the way, its a community kind of thing. its "whats up chat" as to say we are the chat to the proverbial streamer of life as opposed to my friends are chat to my stream. for what its worth. its literally just a stand in of whats up guys, or whats good homies. or whatever

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@BiosTheo
@BiosTheo - 20.10.2024 21:41

Fairness is what the central tenet of any Extraction Shooter should be. If it isn't fair, it'll never be fun. I could write an entire 5k essay on this by bringing in the immense amount of research I've done into the psychology of fairness, and how we figured out fairness in the 1980s was what ACTUALLY causes criminality in poorer neighborhoods because it leads to disenfranchisement, but hey I won't. Let's just assume I'm right (because I am) and discuss fairness. What is the difference between successful souls likes and unsuccessful souls likes? No, its not ALWAYS fairness but it is a big component. Take Lords of the Fallen on launch, people deemed the enemy placement to be "unfair," and it flopped. They fixed it with 1.6 aaaaand... well nobody cares but it was a great fucking game after that. If the game isn't "fair" and its "difficult" it will never garner success, because the difficulty will feel arbitrary and the overwhelming majority of people will bounce right off of it because it doesn't feel like you have control over the experience. That loss of control is what we call "disenfranchisement" and what, more often than not, leads to hackers being hackers.

Now, you may notice that some people become hackers even when the game is relatively fair (Soulslikes, for example). Well, thats because "fairness" is subjective, and some people just fucking suck at difficult games, so they "rebel" against the "unfairness" by hacking thus taking back "control" over the experience.

Control is also a big reason people gravitate towards the META (as the technical term). In a game that is difficult people will attempt to garner the most control over it as possible, and thus will seek out the META. Its just human nature.

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@michu070
@michu070 - 20.10.2024 21:57

NLs daughter is actually 3 in that clip. Thats pretty early isnt it?

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@mnal5gex
@mnal5gex - 20.10.2024 23:01

Has Jesse ever play Dayz?

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@Riga352
@Riga352 - 20.10.2024 23:14

I played Delta Force Friday afternoon in three games I saw five or six blatant cheaters. It's absolutely infested already

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@AllTheOthersWereTakn
@AllTheOthersWereTakn - 20.10.2024 23:28

Kamala Harris 60 minutes interview was edited to remove some of her rambling and change her answer on some questions.

It's already happening.

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@Tacti_cat
@Tacti_cat - 21.10.2024 00:13

Yo Jesse If you want to exercise your critical thinking skills in an FPS game, Play Hunt Showdown.

I know a lot of people shirk the idea of getting into it because the guns are "clunky". But that's good if you are trying to use more than just your W key and your right hand to win a fight.

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@AllTheOthersWereTakn
@AllTheOthersWereTakn - 21.10.2024 00:16

The color thing started with Diablo 2. WoW popularized it.

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@Lornext
@Lornext - 21.10.2024 00:16

Asmongold getting a bit too real for a moment there.
Nothing wrong with what he said though, if you think different please point out a single thing he was wrong about.

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@fortifieddorn3375
@fortifieddorn3375 - 21.10.2024 00:31

I am once again suggesting that the bois sus out foxhole

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@killacam5O4
@killacam5O4 - 21.10.2024 00:37

Jesse's pubg stream was awesome. I hope he plays it again

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@herculies2121
@herculies2121 - 21.10.2024 01:20

That delta force ammo armor thing sounds dumb af, gimmi tarkovs spaghetti ammo armor code anyday haha

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@herculies2121
@herculies2121 - 21.10.2024 02:13

Jessie "I don't want it to be tarkov" proceeds to say he wants them to add features/mechanics tarkov has haha jk love ya Jessie

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@Squiggly6942
@Squiggly6942 - 21.10.2024 02:46

They're in so deep they forgot that light even exists...

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@byrdreciever
@byrdreciever - 21.10.2024 03:16

Idk who needs to hear this customs is the best for cultist. Only one spawn and if they aren't there you can extract quick through fortress

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@pimpmywiki
@pimpmywiki - 21.10.2024 05:06

Valorant is probably better for Jesse than CSGO since it incorporates powers usage as well as following the CSGO formula closely.

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@christopherpitts3941
@christopherpitts3941 - 21.10.2024 05:26

I been playing a lot of delta force and where gold armor really gets good is on layali and space city where people are shooting from range more since damage fall off is a thing, it helps u survive the snipers or just long rang sprays. purple armor u just get dropped with one sniper round and 4 rounds at range and thts with full hp armor and most peoples armor end up a little tore up after a few raids unless they buy a new one every raid so gold does a lot to help mitigate a lot of tht damage at range ive survived more once i started running gold ammo cuz those 2 extra rounds really help. i run an as val with its higher rate of fire i often can kill people tht get the drop on me even when they have good ammo so gold armor is worth it depending on wht map ur going to. if im doing confidential on zero dam then im just gonna go purple, if space city im goin gold everything ammo including, but i can also afford to run golds consistently cuz i got all the gold and purple ammo i could for guns i dont use on day one and waited for the price to go up and sold it to everyone a few hours later, so i was rich from day one and i can run tht and not really mind it. once u get past lik 10 mill gold armor and ammo comes cheap and they spawn on space city all over the place so its easy to find them after a few raids there, but i do understand where ur coming from for most players it just isnt feasible to run gold armor every raid. to comment on the pacing of fights having a healer helps a lot to stop those bleeds for a little to allow u to push fights and capitalize on a knock or a lot of damage and having better armor helps since it doesnt take nearly as much damage from ammo of a lower type. having an operator that has nades or mollys or area denial tools can stop them from reviving if u need to take a second to heal or repair. I deff agree the hp pool should be higher maybe 150. i think there might need to be a limit on how much certain items can be sold for on the auction house to make things more accessible so tht its not such a huge hit to players with less funds, but not too low and buying nearly new armor is also a thing and it can be up to 200k cheaper ive gotten armor tht was almost full for 150 200k cheaper. on the medical system u can just use a surgery kit and first aid kit to make it simple thts all u need to carry and if im on healer then i just carry surgery kits and ill take first aids kits if ineed to off players or teammates

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@lucanegri3505
@lucanegri3505 - 21.10.2024 06:11

Best pog-close ever.

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@cory9919
@cory9919 - 21.10.2024 06:18

I want to see Jesse play Dead Cells

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@ognogamesense
@ognogamesense - 21.10.2024 08:25

OMG i cant believe this, the legendary pogcast has joined the NL club :O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love the content

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@Maxshark999
@Maxshark999 - 21.10.2024 08:47

what makes jack doherty's video of him crashing even worse is that he gave 0 fucks about his friend. Didnt check on him, nothing, just started complaining about his car being wrecked and shit while his friend is stuck in the passenger seat bleeding. it took like a few minutes before he started asking if his friend was ok and (barely) trying to help him get out

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