US firm’s 5-minute EV battery charging fixes cold weather charging issues

Nyobolt of the UK showed its fast charge car in June 2023! It has proven 4mins 37 second for 10% to 80% charge. And that is with Nyobolt's SLOW charge battery. Once we can charge cars this quickly, we open the door to having much cheaper EVs as their battery capacity can be halved, making the cars lighter & cheaper. As ever though, we have to wait for the fast charge infrastructure to be in place first...

Another waste of time video from Sam. Even if and that is a huge if it ever becomes possible to fully charge a car in 5 mins where is all the extra electricity coming from?
It may be possible eventually to charge 1 individual car in 5 mins, but just think how much extra electricity is required, how much thicker and heavier the charging cables have to be and much extra cooling will be required, not only of the battery but the charging unit. Now imagine there were 100 cars all trying to fast charge in 5 mins. Can you imagine how much extra power woukd have to be generated to charge just 100 cars. It will never happen, the entire planet will go dark with worldwide power outages.
Evs will never ever become mainstream. Unless the car can self charge indefinitely evs will at best just be a niche market for the few that think they are good. Better to stick with ice and improve on the fuels of an already well established infrastructure.

A lot of these battery startups end up going bankrupt

If "fast charging" can in fact be accomplished at the level claimed, then the question that remains is how the number of charge cycles is affected, i.e. the lifetime of the battery at an acceptable charge capacity. I didn't hear any mention of any testing in this regard. Did I miss the part where that was covered??

I think range anxiety is really charging availability and speed. Many gas cars only go around 300 miles, especially in city stop and go traffic. That’s fine as gas stations are everywhere and only take about 5 minutes. Many people live in apartments/condos so don’t have their own chargers or are renters who can’t install a charger. If I take any kind of medium sized trip of say 200 miles each way I’ll have to recharge away from home. I don’t want to spend 1/2 hour to charge up or charge just enough to get home. We have 300 mile range batteries now. 5 minute charging is the final step to make electrification a fait accompli.

One item I disagree is with this new five minute charging this will be a “game changer” here in the US since a large majority residence live in multifamily rental units that don’t offer level two charging

This is becoming like the F250 pickups. They want to be able to pull a 32 foot trailer but they are just commuting to work.
They want to be able to charge at 1MW but even on trips they will just be using 350Kw chargers.

Nobody still talks about the radiation that comes off the batteries when charging or discharging. When you fast charge your phone check how much radiation comes off it. They tell you that using your phone for calls that you hold up to your head they are seeing higher rates of cancer from RF signals and the radiation and magnetic fields that come off the phones. What do you think is happening in your metal car when the battery is charging and discharging. Plus all the chemicals used to make and take apart old batteries is absolutely horrible for the environment. They are selling us false narratives that this is better for us and the environment. Not saying ICE cars are good for the environment or for us but stop listening to these salesman that are just trying to do the same thing they have been doing. Take your hard earned money and give it to themselves.

Because Tesla is a battery company, they must be aware of this technology. I look forward to seeing what they do with this new knowledge.

All other things being equal, faster is better. It’s silly to say it doesn’t matter.

How does effect battery durability?

I'm excited to see faster charging batteries but I'm more excited about batteries with greater energy density and greater durability. I also think that advances in batteries for EVs will directly translate to better range for the next frontier: eVTOL.

PeeWee Herman is making graphene !

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Any ICE engine, no matter how advanced, produces NOx, which is Nitrogen Oxide.
What does Nitrogen Oxide do to a human body? Do you know?

Cars can charge faster. But can the chargers? It's like selling a phone that can charge at 90W but the phone chargers available are only 66w.

"More than 90% of charging is done at home" - yes, because people who can't charge at home tend not to buy EVs. In the UK, about a third of dwellings have no ability to charge at home because they have no driveways, or for other reasons. In order to get to 100% electric cars, this issue needs to be cracked.

There isn't enough grid capacity. Every household on your street could have a high amperage welder electric welder, but if all used them at the same time there could be problems.

5 minutes will be like average power almost 800 kW! That wont be so soon.

Market definitelly needs 15 minutes charging, otherwise will be hard to get it to mainstream. Thats 350kW charging.

For me personally, energy density, cost and longevity are my top priorities but fast charging would really be nice on road trips.

I'm making a charging system that charges a 100kWh battery in one second, I just need twenty million in investment capital and about a month to find somewhere to stash the cash, buy an island in the Maldives then bust the Company.....any investors ????

While I don’t need to increase the fast-charging speed for long-distance trips with my Tesla Y (it requires less than 10 seconds to plug in and less than 10 seconds to unplug), this graphene heat-spreader/transfer does seem like an excellent material for thermal management of the battery system. The question is cost, if you can obtain this information.

The price of graphene can range anywhere from $100 to $450,000 per pound (0r about $1,000 per gram). This, of course, depends on the quality. Unfortunately, not all graphene is created equal. The manufacturing process and input material determine the true value and properties of graphene.

What We need is Tesla Model Y class EV with standard battery 100kWh and 20% -80% 20 minutes charging .

Fast charging.
Where are all these Megawatts going to come from ????

If you understand Ohms Law ie Watts/power verses voltage/amps etc, there is nowhere near enough capacity in the grid and never will be.



The much thicker cables and millions of extra pylons required doesn't bear thinking about when just ONE 50KW EV requiring a full charge overnight uses as much as an average sized family in an average 3 bed semi uses in a WEEK ⚠️

And by coincidence OCTOPUS our electricity supplier in North Wales sent us a leaflet 2 months ago all about
How to cope and plan for power cuts.
IT IS COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU .
And it's called load shedding like what has been going on in South Africa for decades.
We better start getting used to it thanks to all the Evangelists

I must admit before I bought an EV I suffered from range anxiety. I worried would 320 miles be enough range? However, after owning one I quickly realized that fast charging and a million mile range battery aren’t needed. I have an 80 mile round trip commute that only uses 20% of my battery range (I start at 80 and get home with 60% remaining). Then I charge overnight in less than two hours. How often does anyone drive 300+ miles? Imagine if we had cars that truly reflected daily usages they could be lighter, thus requiring less energy to move them, and cost less.

I like these electric strategies/idea's that can compete or bypass China ,and Australia is leading the way

that kind of AMPs will never going to be available from grid to charge in 5 min and building huge battery farms with inverters for every station would be too expensive. battery swap is the future ,slow charging using off peak times and wind-solar.

If a car had 10'000 super capacitor's as well as a battery,wouldn't they super charge in second's and slow release for extended range or instantly fire off for/as an electric turbo.some people want slow charging from personally owned wind and solar or traffic light top up's(bumber car style)graphene and indium(didn't know about indium did you) as heat sink's/spreaders or converters of heat energy.anyways some fast slow idea's,power to the eco electric ⚡ viking

Another promising development....except I have heard someone explain that the required cable size, current and voltage regulators and power drain on the local electricity grid makes this impractical. Imagine everyone with an EV putting this huge demand on the electrical infrastructure at the same time. Another alchemy story I fear...but keep trying.

I think you're kind of thinking of it backwards.
Because they have a way to dump the electricity in without creating the heat. Then all you're doing is moving electrons which travel at the speed of light. The time we spend is because of the heat without the heat the battery can charge almost instantly in theory.

Range over charging speed!

I enjoy the stops for the most part. It makes me a safer, more rested driver than the 'gotta get there now' brigade in their 1000km utes. The other issue is that you also have to be able to supply the chargers with power. The vast majority of chargers in Oz are power limited, particularly in Regional and Rural areas. I will take ten 50 kW chargers over one 500 kW charger any day!

Another day, another game-changer in the delusional world of EV motoring hype!

Fast charging, sounds very fanciful, but what about Battery life???

How many amps will it need to flow and how thick are the cables needed?.

Wouldn't that need a charger with a megawatt level output? Doesn't seem feasible for large scale deployment.

What happens when a PHEV battery loses a great percentage of charge or if the battery dies?

What an awkward CCS charging system! Wonder why other countries are not adapting there EV to NACS which is much easier to use & cable to handle. Try to use the CCS charger in cold weather. The cable is so stiff than woman can hardly handle it.

Cold weather proofing is needed. Gets to -30 here in Canada.. much more than just -5 😂

5m is the ideal.

For me, fast charging is a nice to have, but I leave in a very small country (Israel) and drive the BYD Atto 3 for 2 years (over 52,000 km), so 99% of my charging were done at home over night (currently very cheap). I am very happy with my electric car!

My personal take is that for a normal person going on a road trip, 15-minutes to charge from 10%-80% is more than plenty.

But, I can envision some niche situations where faster charging could be nice. EV car racing is one obvious one (every minute saved in charge time means more entertainment value for the fans), and wouldn't require a super-powerful charger anywhere except for the race track.

There could also be some non-automotive uses of this tech. For instance, maybe delivery drivers recharging their e-bike batteries in 5 minutes at superchargers designed for cars. Or, maybe an electric airplane used for flight instruction might find it useful to do a 5-minute recharge between flights, allowing a single flight lesson to last for longer than the range of the battery. Or even airports offering 5-minute charging for mobile phones for people who have a low battery and need something quick before boarding the plane. There are probably other use cases of this tech I'm not even thinking of, but EV road trips, I don't think is the most exciting case of it.

This is getting ridiculous. It's just the marketing boys going for it, much like the German boys giving us the opportunity to drive 700bhp monsters on public roads that are strictly speed limited. Totally stupid, no one worries about charging a phone in five minutes. What we need is golf sized cars for£15k that can do maybe 250 km and charge in half an hour or so.

Sam, have you heard about BaaS-system which can "charge" your EV already under 5 minutes + without 1000w charging or heat transfer with a very short period?