Vagus Nerve Stimulation - Do VNS Devices Work? - Dr Gill

You might ask why people are desperate. Is it because with problems like tinnitus, MS and lately Long-Covid the medical profession either denies there is a problem or has no solution and are not trying to find one because there is no profit in it? Over a decade ago St George's hospital found that the Kneipe cold water treatment was of benefit to heart patients so you do not seen well informed. Your initial response was typical of that of most doctors who are unable to evaluate medical research papers due to their ignorance of statistics so just go on the promotional literature given them by pharmaceutical salesmen - Professor John Ioannidis Professor of Public Medicine at UCS and a polymath with an institute in Athens that evaluates medical papers has found that neither do many of the researchers with over 30 out of the top 50 medicines prescribed by doctors having no research justification due to a lack of statistical evidence or reproducibility. You called bias on the Neurosym publication because of funding of the research by device manufacturers. On that basis you should disregard 90% of drug data and refuse to use them in your practice until you have done your own trials
As a physiologist when I want unbiased information of any medical matter I type xxx Research reviews into my URL and then select those using meta-analysis which are the nearest we can get to the truth. if you had done that for vagus nerve stimulation you would have found that far from being a potential scam there is a substantial level of valid research information supporting a range of uses from combating Long Covid to Tinnitus and Atrial Fibrillation and that Neurosym is one of the devices used in this research.

Hi Dr, would you recommend the nurosym device for Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, an autonomic nervous system disorder. Thank you

Very interesting and informative, I am waiting delivery of a Nurosym device to try and help with post ischaemic stroke left arm spasticity. However, I also hope it will help reduce anxiety and improve sleep, a similar device is being used in a UK trial for post stroke patients but to get in the trial there needs to be wrist movement that I lack, so I am doing my own trial! Enjoyed this unbiased and informative presentation. Thanks

You actually don’t have to get a device that expensive. There are cheap tVNS devices available online that do the same thing for anywhere between 20-100€. Or maybe you already have a tens device for your back or neck. Then you only need to get an earclip and set the thing to 100Hz and 150 µs

When will this be available in the United States?

is this same treatment as Alpha Stim stimulation ???

Thanks for this video. Doesn't HRV go up by resting though. So if you were to sit still or lie down for the same time you used the device, wouldn't hrv also go up? This is what I have personally found

May I know the name of the device you have so I can get one, please? Thank you.

Thank you for the video! Do you have any product recommendations for those of us in the US who aren't able to order Neurosym? Thank you!

please note that he conveniently failed to tell everyone that instead of the very expensive device he was promoting, you can buy a TENS Unit for around £30 that will do the very same job, yeh.. money, money, money.!!.. lol.

SO THEN PEOPLE, WHAT'S YOUR OWN DIAGNOSIS, IS HE A DOCTOR OR A SALESMAN.??.
His advertised device = $599 or a do the very same job TENS Unit = $40..

Hi Doctor, do you think it could word for IBS?

Thank you! I was suspicious at first because of the adverts! Since last September have been suffering from post viral fatigue. Sleeping or lying down in the day time, brain fog and just managing a walk outside once every 10 or 11 days. ... 8 months now. Started Nurosym maybe 10 days ago. I have hope. Still weak and aching but managing a short walk maybe every 5 or 6 days. I had much doubt before buying then tossed a coin 3 times to decide!! I think that I do feel different. It actually sorted certain bowel issues to do with IBS. That was a surprise! So on we go! I was having doubts recently so this talk has given me a bit more confidence and hope so thank you!

Truvaga (Electrocore) is an amazing device for this...

Do you have any thoughts about the Amofit S device?

How do we get it in the U.S.??

Wonderful video ❤

Excellent presentation

Very useful, thank you. Is it possible to stimulate the vagus nerve with a TENS machine? Sticking the pad on your neck perhaps? I also wonder if it can help with ADHD?

I recently bought a VN Neurosymn device.

Do you think there is at least a theoretical risk of nerve damage from long/short term use?

Dr. Gill,
Thank you for the comprehensive content about the VNS; it was really helpful.
I contacted the Parasym support team as I am wondering whether having a piercing in the tragus could affect the Nurosym device's efficiency or be somehow harmful since it gives the electric signal and the jewelry is made from surgical steel. However, I didn't receive any replay. What's your opinion?

Does it work with metals in the head as tooth implant, brace or nails in the cheekbone?

Is this safe to use long term? And what frequencies are used is that safe for the brain?

I can’t seem to get my HRV up. It’s always in the 10’s

Excellent video!! I have Long Covid fatigue and was about to buy one called Amofit S because I can’t afford Nurosym. Could you make a part two on that one too?

"Includes PAID promotion."

What a brilliant video❤

Okay... Colour me intrigued... however, a price of over $1000 Canadian dollars for what is effectively a regarchable battery with a timer, voltage regulation and an aligator clip is an ABSOLUTE SCAM. Think about it, a vape battery which has effectively equivalent technology to what is included in this product and those cost around $50.00... There is NO WAY I could ever recommend this product to myself or anybody else at that price point. I suppose they only have to sell a few of them to be profitable... but that price... no way.

Has anyone gotten a VNS implant from livanova for TRD? I can't find any reviews of people getting it and it helping.

I am an ischaemic stroke survivor. I have very little use of my left arm and hand and suffer with finger spacicity. I do many exercises to encourage neuro stimulation and plasticity. Could VNS help ??

What is the difference between a £45 tens device for vegus nerve stimulation and a £600 neuro sym device.?

Hey, I can't see any follow up in the comments (could have missed) but how would you rate this with regards to Chronic Fatigue (CFS/ME)? If HRV is already considered high, would there be any benefit? Thanks Doc, always insightful vids!

What's the difference?? Neuro sym £600 - tens machine with clip £45????

I‘ve suffered with Post Covid syndrome for 2 years. Finally got diagnosed with Pots. The prognosis (50% not cured after 5 years) is so bad that I started researching high bridges. Will give this a try. It’s ridiculously expensive but after losing my job and all that made life worth living, I am desperate enough to try it.

Do you think helps with appetite suppression like the VBLOC surgery does?

I’m stumbling across your video after stumbling across the nurosym.

I’m 8min in and everything you’re saying completely relates to my situation! I have AF episodes and always have SVT before the episode, if I control the SVT then I don’t get the AF. To control the SVT I kneel down and do some deep breathing. The result is as you are explaining, building pressure in my chest which seems to stop it. I just never understood why.

I was seeing a cardiologist at the NHS for a few years and not once did he ever mention vagal nerve stimulation. I had no idea the vagal nerve was such an integral part of the heart. I had to work out that what I was experiencing was SVT by myself.

Thank you for the knowledge. I just can’t believe in 10 years of having this issue this is the first I’m hearing a doctor tell me SVT and vagus nerve are related.

Now I’m looking into this device which has so many clinical trials and one for AF. Just saw the price and I was like 😢

I’m hoping this might be a none invasive way of helping reduce the chances of SVT and further prevent AF episodes.

Hello there and thank you so much for this interesting video. Are there any alternatives to the neurosis Device (it is rather expensive) that you would recommend? Thank you for answering 😊

The 5 % off does not work…

Any alternatives to Neurosym? It isn’t available for purchase in America 😔

The Nurosym is actually simply a locked setting TENS machine with an ear clip electrode. This particular product is priced excessively for what it is. It is identical to a licensed physiotherapy TENS machine with adjustable settings. The settings that are noted in the papers are frequency 20HZ; pulse width 200 micro-s. Its predecessor the Parasym was literally just an adjustable TENS machine.

Great video, but I'm sceptical to trust if you're offering a refereal to the product you are reviewing, even though you are trying to mitigate that very dutifully. Your anecdotal test is also not very meaningful without a control condition: Would you have had the same effect by just sitting there (which certainly would have also had an effect on your HRV)?

Are you still using the Nurosym regularly? :)

Hi I like your explanations about the Vagus Nervous System Dysfunction. I have not experienced Covid or Long Covid but I do have a damaged Vagus Nerve going on 28 years now. I was in a very abusive relationship including alcohol and drug abuse to the maximum. I was 34 years old and after 6 months after that horrible fiasco I started getting very ill. It felt like a flu and continued to cause undue stress to my poor body now at 61 years old. I have Gastritis and major illness problems because of this issue and it's the root cause. I live in Canada so does the offer apply to us? I have been online watching reviews on other devices as they are expensive but I want to know that it is very effective!! Thank you!!

Wim Hof might have some merit medically, but as a teacher he is teaching untrained amateurs to do dangerous techniques and has gotten several people killed.

He also once blasted his intestines apart when he inserted a public fountain into his rectum without realising the water pressure, so, you know, not the most reliable source of health advice.

Fantastic video. Thank you for being so thoughtful about word choice and acknowledging variables and ambiguities in evidence.

Also, a deep butt fucking stimulates it.

What I don't understand is that we are informed that Neurosyms are used in American hospitals yet are not sold in America. They are sold with very good sales pitches in the UK yet no doctor I have seen during my last year of Post Viral Fatigue has knowledge of them! 😮 Food for thought or what? 😮 Also I have been ill for a year and have been using a Neurosym for 6 months of that time. Result. I could gp out for walks earlier on. Now I am housebound. So really I do have to draw a big Zero on this apparatus. Publicity and backup very well done but I really do think it is a big con. 😮

You work with/for Nurosym. Is this not a bit biased?

Please come over to Germany and be my family doctor ;-)