Christina Hoff Sommers: Schools Are Hostile to Boys' Instincts

Although she has some decent ideas, this woman is certainly still part of the problem. She says around the 32 or 33 min mark that there aren’t enough female CEOs or Senators, and we should work to “fix” that. That demonstrates that in her core, she still holds all the beliefs that have resulted in the things she’s speaking against here. Maybe we should just accept that men and women are different — something all successful human civilizations implicitly understood until very recently.

Personally, I’ve never met a single woman in my entire life that demonstrated the leadership skills required to be a CEO or Senator. However, I have encountered plenty of “girl bosses” that had no idea what they were doing, but had apparently absorbed too much feminist programming and had mistaken speaking loudly and ordering others around for leadership.

The fact it took her over 3mins to describe "female" shows she's full of shit and scared to just say what she means.

NEVER ask a woman academic to describe men. Literally don't know what they are talking about. I'd say, listen to a man to understand men, but ypu don't want those answers, so u ask some dumb bitch.

Agree on her take for men/boys but skip the part on Marxism and Islam. Still using old talking points about how all communist countries end up a failure but somehow miss China which is run by a communist party and has outperformed everyone else for four decades. Viet Nam has also done fairly well.

Lets be honest women suck at putting themselves into the shoes of someone else thus they assume every good woman wants what they want and despise what they despise....because if thats not the case they choose their live not because thats the best they can but make their own decisions and thus have to bear responsibility..... ergo every woman ofc wants what they do coz its the only way

I raised two boys, one had good social skills but disliked abstract writing or thinking, he became a chef, my second boy could read and understand complex science and philosophy but could not sit still , I could tell the school was treating him as a problem, he dropped out of high school, but thank fully an administrator got him into an alternative school with better trained teachers and they helped him achieve. My daughter went through school like a breeze until her senior year and the trans movement hit and the school system tried to shove it down her throat. Of course, she rebelled and became more conservative than me. And she just graduated from college, my boys had no interest at all. I read Christinas book and mentioned it to a few teacher friends, they agreed with it but felt like their hands were tied by the momentum of society and the administration.

As far as I know, all cultures have separated the education of boys and girls. We are probably creating problems by trying to educate them together.

We’ve done away with rough and tumble play, indoctrinated a generation into toxic masculinity and bludgeoned them with the patriarchy. As adults we shrug our shoulders and ask what’s wrong with the young men nowadays? We failed them…

toxic femininity: society as a whole hates men. In relation to schools: why send your kids off to strangers to begin with....?
Home schooling; problem solved!

Segregate the boys from the girls. Teach according to that sex.

I love how behaving in a classroom and having expectations is now considered hostile to boys. 99 percent of the time, the school isn’t the problem but rather the individual. But nobody wants to say that. Perhaps we need to identify boys who simply can thrive in school and put them in alternative schools where there are no rules or expectations of them.

Preference Feminism: privileges that women have that men don't have. Men don't have the opportunity that women have to work full-time for a while and then work part-time after having a child. A man must work full-time for the entirety of his life. Men don't have the opportunity to be a psychologist doing what they like but making less money. Men need to work in a field that will pay enough to support a family. Women have the opportunity that men don't have to get married, wait for the mortgage and cars and all debts to be paid off, divorce the husband, keep the house, the kids, the cars, everything and force the man to live in destitution while he pays her alimony and child support (which is just another form of alimony). So "preference feminism" is just feminism: preferential treatment and opportunities that men never have or ever will have.

I was good with this talk until the question about why on earth feminists are protesting for Islamic extremists on campus. Does this guy have an AIPAC suppository up his ass? Nobody is protesting for Islamic extremists. They are protesting for innocent Palestinians being being slaughtered with American bombs by the extremist right wing Israely military.

Government funded schools are child abuse - especially for male students. Get your children out of public schools if you love them.

The education system is built for women

Schools are so female sentric men learn by doing

Kids with low IQs it goes without saying don’t do well in school, and boys have higher IQs than girls, believe it or not. So boys with high IQs can cope with school, but good luck to the dullards because they don’t stand a chance since the suburban high schools mostly did away with shop classes. The current system is totally insane and most of the female teachers at the elementary level are really not the brightest for the most part.

While discussing various topics in the teacher’s lounge with the female teachers at a Catholic grades 1 through 8 parochial school I would routinely be appalled by how dull the female teachers were, at least intellectually. The one comment which sticks in my mind was the fifth grade teacher who claimed she was interested in German history but when asked if she’d ever read INSIDE THE THIRD REICH by Albert Speer wrinkled up her nose in disgust and said “no, that book’s too fat for me”. So not only is she not much of a reader but she also expresses herself crudely describing books as being either fat or skinny. And furthermore, she’s not going to know much of anything which has cleverly been hidden inside the covers of book in order to prevent her from finding it.

Maybe that's why I'm trans.
Sadly, I had a bit too much schooling. 😅
Jokes aside, I'd reign associate femininity with weakness

Let's reason.
And yes America has to love itself again and all it did and achieved.
The same for Europe and Canada.

It's good to feedback on things, and that is allowed in our civilizations. Thanks God.

The danger of it though is that u only see the criticizing side, and enter a dark tunnel of rejection and only seeing that.
Instead of regularly balancing the so incredibly good things we've achieved.
Yes, we should tap ourselves on the shoulders again from time to time, above all because of so much feedback and freedom we allow.
Just don't let it kill us.

Nice and interesting balanced conversation. I liked it and agree with many points.

Good topic, respects❤

The boys were asked to go out into the desert and discover themselves. They got together and burned their assignments. These boys discovered themselves. This is success.

Always stick to your specialism. I subscribed and then you end it with USA propaganda against muslims. So tiring. Unsubbed again. Very good talk though till the end.

Yes, we are often different. Of course, there is a binary! But I was punished more harshly because I was a girl who wouldn't behave. I was a girl in a private school that prioritized academics in a controlled environment. I stuck out in particular because I was curious, creative and energized. It was hell because I was a girl who kept up but preferred gym.

She is sadly deluded by too much education and feminism. Maybe she is on the path to rationality and truth but this conversation is only about 25% substantive. The rest is a waste of time.

What about all the hormones in foods ? There's alot more effeminate looking young men nowadays?

As a women who/undiagnosed ADHD school wasn’t exactly friendly to me. But I had to do it. Can we stop w/the boys vs girls narrative, us vs them narrative Instead recognize Schools do some things well & many things bad. School works better for some & worse for others. Let’s work to incorporate school better for all, not just assume girls have everything perfect & society is just dumping upon men.
I can give u plenty of examples of men dumping & abusing women
I wish this convo recognized we need to change things for the Better of boys & girls (& all genders). Girls may b doing better in s hook But also look at anxiety in women, self harming in girls/women this is out of control as well. Saying girls r doing perfect ignores the problems women & girls r having. Admit Both sexed have challenges and move from there.

Hey, I'm all about this! I promise I will concede all of the rights and privileges to any woman that provides for me, protects me, provides emotional support, oh, and this is the tough one. She also has to have at least three babies while she is protecting and supporting me. Who's with me! Girl power! Boss bitches! Yeah I'll be a stay at home dad, when I can find a woman who actually Can, have it all. The biggest problem is these damn babies! Mothers schedule their career around a pregnancy, you know,,,,due date, two or three weeks off to heel, go back to work and never miss a beat. But,,,,these insidious babies have some crazy mind control that makes a lot of women want to be mothers! Crazy!

Toxic masculinity used to be a weak man who prayed on the weak. Real men stand up to things that would probably destroy them because weaker people are suffering!

If you could actually get a boy to tell the truth about how they felt about any given situation, you would, this day in age, probably lock them up for either being a potential rapist or serial killer! But for some reason boys have,since the beginning of time,have been able to separate thought from the real world. Now that the barrier has been dropped look how women act in public versus men!

Wait,,,, the same opportunity? Ohhhkayyy, but responsibilities? The same, you made your bed now lie in it? The same consequences for your actions? The same "oh shit I'm 40 and now I want a family"? Cause, it ain't the same. It never will be. Life sucks, get over it. When women try to live like men they have a mental breakdown, if women could look inside a mans thoughts they would probably commit suicide.

Society is "desperately looking or solutions" that WON'T lead back to the fe▉male SOURSE of the problem so why pretend!!!!!

Naz▉is in lipstick!!!!!

Universities have been funded by multiple foreign Islamic organizations that push Islamic apologetics on students. I wish I could remember the names but strangely these organizations were accepted during the Obama administration and have been funding our universities since then

I find it funny how hard both the host and guest is to just say men and boys need help. All good though, keep neglecting and pretending and soon everything will burn 🔥 most of us either left, gave up, and the darkest of us are finished, ✌️What has women empowering and gays done to society so far? birthrate already below threshold

I would largely argue that the current feminism of today is built purely for the Gramsci-esque destruction on the west... its not surprising its causing problems that was the intended effect

The single worst social policy we've enacted over the last 150 years is making education coed.

Not only do boys and girls learn and function differently lile she says, but we've also made it exceptionally difficult to learn and retain because we're asking them to sit in proximity to each other at the most hormonally fertile time of their lives and ignore each other so they can learn. Instead we've set up a system where they have to be "performing" all the time for the other sex while trying to ignore them at the same time.

Imagine how much brain power teenagers are using to override that instinct that could otherwise be channeled to education if we had segregated education that was tailored to each sex.

Cent even give a clear definition of words in 2024, and they want us to have a conversation...

Read her book years ago, great read. Unhappy groups of unmarried men do society no good.

So interesting to see a dyed in the wool lefty criticize a movement "that went too far" and yet defend the underpinnings and origins of said movement. Reminds me of Richard Dawkins' "culturally Christian" nonsense. You helped cause this.

The war on boys is WRONG!

Lmfao kids making the fire. All about survival

While a females blessing is to create and nurture life is well known and respected, it seems less acknowledged that a males role is to sacrifice themselves to protect the group. To put it another way, females hold domain in creating life, males hold domain in death. Almost, and perhaps even instinctually, boys know this; this is why their play reflects this. No one turns 18 and is magically ready to face death, dismemberment, and torture for the sake of the group. It's something you prepare for during your childhood with play.

Who is Jezebel?

You can't trust anyone that uses that many words to define feminine. We know what it means. Stop pretending it's not what it is.

I'll never understand the need to overcomplicate things. You could solve 80% of the problem by hiring different teachers. You hire all young, liberal, female teachers and they're going to teach in a way that young, liberal, female teachers think.

I think people are afraid to say it, but it's true: the State is actively trying to ostracize boys and inflict long-term damage on them. It's no accident.

I think she hits on one thing that drove me mad in school and effected my gpa. The mandatory English classes of reading and creative writing. I never did see any of the mandatory reading as these "Well educated" teachers with what the author ment in x y or z. But we all had to sit and dam near fail because some see a story as a story and not every writing is a deep look at the excessives of the flappers. I actually got Ds in most of the non grammatical English classes. So again we're punishing kids who are a square in a round hole.