6v6 Tested! We Finally Have the Truth | Spilo Reaction

Not playing this game is more fun

It’s no surprise that Your Overwatch once again disagrees with irrelevant points. Regardless of rank, the overall quality of the game is poor. The solution is simple: bring back 6v6, and nerf DPS passives and support damage. Right now, matches at any rank are determined by which team heals more, while hoping the DPS players aren’t throwing, since tanking feels meaningless.

My brother and I would duo queue tanks in diamond and low masters and just run over the enemy with whacky tank comps that exploited a weird specific synergy, and it was such a blast. I miss it so bad. It’d be so fun to run something like queen ramattra together, or Winston ball again…

I enjoy both. Can’t really decide as someone who was a hardcore tank in ow1 and ow2. I do miss having another tank for the fact that it helped sponge up aggression from your teammates talking sh*t to you. Teammates just love to bully the tank because they’re alone. I always got backed up by a fellow tank if someone is playing the blame game.

5v5 is way better and I'm getting tired of a vocal MINORITY dictating the conversation in this community.

Lol guess I'm biased
I played ow1 everyday for years.
I don't play ow2
Very wierd

Tank stopped being popular when 5v5 happened

Freedo actually having realistic takes that focus on the ENTIRE own community rather than just the top 1%. Who’da thought that would actually make sense.

The concept of main tank and off tank just made sense. Tanks like Zarya and DVA feel so out of place as solo tanks. There meant for support at the end of the day, maybe just tune their damage down a bit if 6v6 is implemented.

I love how one moment we are talking about 6v6 meaning there will be no team comp diversity no matter the balance changes and then the next he is denying that the high mobility meta found in the testing will remain true because of balance changes. Make up your mind, either the balance team can affect how the game or they can’t, you can’t live on both sides of the fence.

If you don't learn the game you get rolled over... ok

This game should have had picks and bans years ago for comp

I always figured that the reason they went to 5V5 was that they were sick and tired of all of the Roadhog Hook complaints. (This won't make any sense unless you understand the nature of Overwatch's security.)

I think you're completely wrong about off-tank, especially in terms of what it is and why people play it. The entire appeal of off-tank for me and everyone I know was that it's the role with less pressure than the main tank. As an off-tank, you have a bit more freedom to get creative with your plays. While the main tank focuses on pushing the objective or protecting the team in general, you can focus on one specific thing at a time...like harassing those two players trying to flank, or playing babysitter to a single support when they're harassed, and so on. The off-tank has the freedom to focus on the micro game, instead of the macro game. Eliminating that role to just slap everyone into a form of "main tank" role isn't great game design, it's just lazy

I love how freedo is still fighting tooth and nail to say 6v6 was terrible while I absolutely miss 6v6 and thought it just took skill/team coordination to be good at it

I am 100% convinced everybody who wants 6v6 is trolling

5v5 always gives more independent agency which in my opinion is more fair and fun

Overwatch is dead. Once December 6th comes Marvel Rivals with officially take over the genre while Overwatch fades into obscurity

The issue with 5v5 is tanks feel terrible both to play AS and AGAINST. I hate what they've had to do to tanks to try to make 5v5 work and it's made the game trash.

Why can't we just do both

I miss duo tank with my friends and such

Nobody wants to play tank now let alone have 2 back in the game. Just leave it as it is. 5v5 is perfect

If they do 6v6 they gotta do it right. None of these silly projectile size increases or hp buffs. These were already ill advised and short sighted additions in 5v5 but these are even worse ideas in 6v6. Both of those changes contribute majorly to the game leaning towards sustainy comps and spam. This test is scuffed, any 6v6 criticism from this test on those grounds would be allayed in a “real” 6v6 mode. And if Blizzard really won’t make those necessary reversions as well, they are still lost and foolish as ever.

5v5 sucks and isnt fun. Theres a reason i hardly play but played a ton of 6v6 even with its flaws. 5v5 is terrible

only people who want 6v6 back are player who suck at the game. and they will complain about 6v6 when it comes back too

In 6v6 you could wreck an aimboter by being better in 5v5 people group with cheaters because you can't lol

I hate that they make the ram change before the 6v6 test. Now he wont even have an interesting role in a situation with potentially more shields

I have been playing this game since it came out and I'm just nodding my head

Spilo: do you like team comp or individual expression?

Freedo: translation, you will never shoot the other team, you can’t move, will die in spawn before the game begins, and your grandma will die from two shields randomly falling off a trick and bisecting her.

Jeepers creepers, we get you hate 6v6, but you’re not even listening to the guy

I can’t wait for 6v6 to come back just for the casuals to cry and ask for 5v5. I have been on the game since OW1 and can tell you, its nostalgia bias because 6v6 was severely unbalanced and it never will be balance because of all these new heroes. We can all wish and want the perfect balance but even in 5v5 now there are clear outstanding meta juggernauts and inbalances

People who never played OW1 trying to argue in the comments how 6v6 was better 😆😆

The problem with any 6v6 test, is it is never going to show the popularity correctly. Of course you would see a surge of new and old returning tank players... The problem is how do you separate it from the here to stay tanks and the "I want to try because it is new and shiny" players.

I loved 6v6, but so many of the issues are still overlooked, and I honestly don't think the player base is there to sustain two tanks. The frustrations are still gonna be there of DPS players getting board of 10 min queues and going tank. Locking a hog and doomfist combo and the team getting rolled by a the other team having actual tank synergy.

I like the idea of pickable passives, but only for the Tank players. One it makes tanking more interesting. Second, if the passives actively deal with counter swaps such as Dva getting beam damage reduction when DM is active, or Winston getting increased armor pellet reduction to deal with Mauga and Hog...

I think there are better ways to deal with it

I flex a lot in gold. There's one tank in 5v5. I still get tank 95% of the time.


Queue times are going to be abysmal in 6v6.

Freedo spittin facts here

I feel as though many people are looking through rose tinted glasses on this one. 6v6 was a nightmare in comparison. Imagine queue times somehow weren't a factor, sure. We still have the issue of, we lose a tank, we lose the fight. And now, it happens more often. People remember tank synergies were fun, yes, but forget they were a requirement, not a choice. Getting 1 tank to agree to a hero is easier than 2 agreeing to the same synergy. Shield meta, or bunker comp, or double shield, or "barrierwatch" was what people called the last couple seasons of Overwatch 1. I wish they did not even consider 6v6 again.

OW1: shields OW2: supports that out dps the dps and can heal and offer utility.

Do you not play open que? It's pretty much OW1 with one less person

After playing 6v6 again, I prefer 5v5 much more. You think having 2 tanks will relieve some pressure, but instead most of the time, the other wouldn't cooperate and decide to do his own thing, then die and have no value since tanks are much weaker individually for 6v6. It's much more fun to play as a beef up tank and try to work with 4 other ppl, rather than playing a watered down tank and try to work with 5 others.

6vs6 game balance revolved around post graduate status 😂

Omg stop jabbering. Let the video play and then comment on it ya muppet.

You have way too many 6v6 cucks in your comments.

6v6 was better. Period.
This current format is not more >>> fun <<< than the previous.

6v6 is better that’s all you need to know. Especially for tank players.

6v6 tanking is an art form. 5v5 tanking is just horrible basically a beefy dps

The meta and team comp problem with 6v6 in OW1 is not because of 6v6 itself but the lack of balancing and updates due to resources being poured into OW2. If they keep updating and balancing 6v6 in OW1 as much as OW2, GOAT and double shield can be discouraged or eliminated. But they decided to nuked the 2nd tank out of the game.....and create more problems.....

having 5vs5 is nonsense cause do you see what clusterfuck screen became when many ultimates are pressed at once? no thx and aslo less people to carry.

The way freedo critiques 6v6 and old overwatch makes me feel like he is more interested in Valorent light, than he is in actual overwatch.

“You shouldn’t need tanks to take space”. Then why even have tanks? If you’re just gonna make them DPS, then why have them?

I personally much prefer ow2 5vs5
I do totally understand why people want and prefer 6vs6 but in my old experience of the game, there was so much shooting of tanks, healing of tanks, "useless dps" picks and general lack of agency for me as a player of all roles.
It's strange to admit that i just really like being able to shoot at enemies more as dps and support in ow2 and that's made me play the game whilst this somehow is a take i rarely see corroborated by anyone else.
I remember how it felt having things like a sym, torb, Mercy, moira on attack and feeling like bleh... In 5vs5 we really have lost that level of throw picks, sure that team comp may suck but players can make it work way more easily that in 6vs6.
As an early ow1 player, i just generally prefer the space and fps playstyle of 5vs5. I stopped playing 6vs6 and until ow2 came out i never really understood why. I'm not against 6vs6, i know how many people want it, i just wanted to voice the opinion that i seem to see so rarely in the debate, and ultimately admit that if the game becomes less open, i will probably lose my fun and enjoyment with it again.