Why The Royals Must Never Forgive Meghan Markle (Podcast #100)

Why The Royals Must Never Forgive Meghan Markle (Podcast #100)

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@hf3739
@hf3739 - 29.06.2024 14:26

You’re right, Zac! As a Christian I see that the bible teaches that God is ready to forgive anyone and everyone. However, a careful reading of the bible shows that there’s actually only one category of people whom God is willing to forgive: the repentant. If people are truly sorry for their behaviour and turn away from that behaviour, accepting that it was wrong, then and only then can the wronged party consider forgiveness. It would be a foolish person who accepts someone back with open arms before seeing evidence that they’ve not just said they’re sorry but are behaving as if they truly regret their previous wrong behaviour. Somehow I can’t see Meghan even saying she’s sorry never mind actually meaning it.

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@jdsiv3
@jdsiv3 - 29.06.2024 22:27

Forgiveness is one thing; reconciliation is another. You can forgive someone (for your own sanity and your own sake), but keep clear and firm boundaries to prevent yourself being hurt again. If the person shows no remorse, makes no effort to change, doesn't take ownership of what they've done wrong, then you have to keep the person at a distance. They are not ready to reconcile.

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@CharlotteDrager
@CharlotteDrager - 30.06.2024 22:46

I don’t think it’s the royals job to contact Thomas Markle

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@vickihatley4041
@vickihatley4041 - 01.07.2024 02:02

Well if u didn't follow the dastardly duo. When they first got together after it came out her mother got palace security & local she was flying her mother back and forth to England at King Charles's expense now. As for Thomas, yes he posed for some pictures where he's being like fitted for a suit. Looking at a English history book. w/ pictures & the photographer come to find out later was associated with Markle she was ashamed of her father's looks MeMe cut her whole family off except 4 the MoM & everything those 2 pd 4 was on King(PoW) Charles at nearly a cool mill the 1st yr.
But the funny thing was that Queen Elizabeth put them on 2 the same RR as Wallis rode in 4 the Duke of Windsors funeral they thought they could leave make the big money & the (late) would let them come back fold well she & Prince Philip who had her # since this crazy Crap started did U dee the RF's faces at that debacle the looks on their faces would turn people to stone. Also, her father Thomas said he knew all the stars at the wedding because he had worked with them that she didn't know them. Well they got to know her and after they did they've dumped her because they could see what is disruptible person. If you want to call her that she is and I don't think big Prince William is going 2 let them waltz back in everything I've told you has been proven true and if you need anything else get in touch with Lady C. She knows the skinny plus she talks on the phone w/ Thomas Markle so she's very good also HG Tutor & Neil Shawn who all of those people has quoted from you. Have a great day. Love your show! Now it's summer get out & have some fun
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@dithedemolisher
@dithedemolisher - 02.07.2024 00:33

God preaches that we use the power of discernment in our lives. He never says forgive no matter what.

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@margaretreid2153
@margaretreid2153 - 02.07.2024 08:42

Markle does not want to mend bridges, how can she,she has this insane jealously for Catherine the Princess of Wales ingrained in her brain,they are only sucking up as theyare getting short of Money 💰.

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@Shellee176
@Shellee176 - 02.07.2024 11:12

Tom Markle Jnr has said on his You Tube channel that Dad still gets hounded by the media & after what occurred, the family doesn't trust media at all, so they regularly decline interviews. Thomas Snr's health has declined significantly in recent times to the point he cannot converse. So where this latest article came from is anyones guess.
I believe Tom Jnr is Dad's live-in carer.

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@mayraamaya9143
@mayraamaya9143 - 02.07.2024 23:28

How do I subscribe????

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@djgreg8198
@djgreg8198 - 03.07.2024 00:45

"...a new threshold!.."

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@djgreg8198
@djgreg8198 - 03.07.2024 01:16

Let me listen again.
Good diction. Both.

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@AnnieH827
@AnnieH827 - 03.07.2024 07:44

Two things. Forgiveness is for you so you can have peace of mind. God says forgive but He does not say to let that person back in opening yourself up to more abuse. Second, H wants UK residence so as not to lose C of State role.

Love you guys ❤

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@maureenchallener1529
@maureenchallener1529 - 03.07.2024 14:39

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

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@maureenchallener1529
@maureenchallener1529 - 03.07.2024 14:56

Harry worse number one lies

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@maureenchallener1529
@maureenchallener1529 - 03.07.2024 14:58

Hope KC don’t make Harry do NDAplease go

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@jgibbs651
@jgibbs651 - 03.07.2024 16:20

The time for the RF to contact Thomas Markle was before the wedding: they should have invited him themselves directly, but at the time they were not aware of what was going on, and I suspect they were accepting her version of events. I think if they contacted him now three things would happen as surely as night follows day: [1] Mr Markle and/or one of his other children would let it be known publicly which would not be a good thing, because [2] Meghan would be given ammunition for her narrative of the "plotting and interfering palace" are ruining my life, and [3] She would be so enraged she and Harry would "go nuclear" and release all sorts of things which, while easily explained and innocent, as a totality would cause even more damage.

Forgiving a narcissist, especially by telling them you forgive them: NEVER. First, it will be seen as a sign of weakness, second they will work it as ammunition for another attack. And if ever you seek revenge on a narcissist you must cover your tracks - it should fall on them like a laser-guided bomb from a cloudless sky.

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@jilltagmorris
@jilltagmorris - 04.07.2024 04:54

NO CONTACT is the ONLY way
Experience here too

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@christineharris8413
@christineharris8413 - 05.07.2024 04:19

That is how you know that someone has NPD .. they never learn from their mistakes.. they never accept responsibility or accountability. And YES, she will do it again and again and again.. ad infinitum! The only way to keep yourself and your loved ones safe from someone with NPD is to have absolutely zero contact with them .. NONE!

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@melbypuna9908
@melbypuna9908 - 06.07.2024 01:48

WoW Legends.. really 3 years 3 months!!!!! amazing.. thanks for the outstanding content you guys bring to our screens

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@theresamoore7021
@theresamoore7021 - 07.07.2024 06:06

I think the RF would have problems with trusting him. And, what could they have to discuss. The RF has nothing good to say. I can see them all feeling like ok here we are now what and William with his arms crossed and rubbing his chin waiting on an ice breaker that never comes.

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@jennasmith610
@jennasmith610 - 07.07.2024 07:27

I’m not into book reading, but if it yours, I would be super excited to read it! 😃

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@sheilastahl633
@sheilastahl633 - 07.07.2024 22:52

It appears that trip they made to Nigeria she went to the bathroom and cried because she didn't get applause per people that witnessed it. So she can't stand not being the star of the show. Harry is the one that was born into it and she is just a tagalong and that grinds her 24/7. I also think she didn't invite her dad and her sister because she didn't want him to walk her down the aisle when he was overweight and her sister in a wheelchair would have damaged her photos for sure in her mind. Harry really got a piece of work and she got a pink toger.

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@lawrencegoldworm
@lawrencegoldworm - 08.07.2024 06:20

Charles and William are simply playing good royal, bad royal. I'm sure neither of them wants to see these two grifters again. Also, it's obvious what they want by moving back to England.
NEW CONTENT!

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@KayLaurence-k1q
@KayLaurence-k1q - 10.07.2024 07:59

We don’t know that the Royal Family haven’t reached out privately.
It might not be for us to hear about 🤷‍♀️🙂

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@nitacas8803
@nitacas8803 - 12.07.2024 10:04

You all no nothing about Megan so what gives you the right to comment about her??? You're just Megan haters!!!!!!

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@wendyhendersong
@wendyhendersong - 18.07.2024 00:45

“Attention to detail, she can’t even iron her clothes!”
Coming from a lawyer and military vet!!
Standing ovation to you Pluto!!! ❤️

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@peonypink9149
@peonypink9149 - 18.07.2024 06:41

You make excellent points that many of us also see - H lost his mother publicly at 12yrs old - HOWEVER - he also had access to the best support resources and the finances to make it happen, and a close knit family around him.
I lost both my parents as a teen to cancer. I lost my husband and my 2 children lost their Dad when they were very little - 5 and 7.
My children are now kind, thoughtful young adults and I have managed to make a life for myself as an adult. H has no excuse - and the ongoing milking of it to try and excuse his appalling behaviour denigrates the experience of others without his advantages. It reveals who he really is - a self-involved, arrogant loser….

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@edcross1395
@edcross1395 - 18.07.2024 15:18

Forgiveness- yes. Continued engagement- no.

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@lou-gj3wn
@lou-gj3wn - 18.07.2024 17:15

Especially MM should never be allowed to be in the presence of the Monarchy family. She is a disturbed person. Harry cam never be trusted.

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@kendallaustin1635
@kendallaustin1635 - 19.07.2024 21:08

The royal family cannot afford to trust any of the Markels. They are to friendly with the press

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@LadyAevarislyn
@LadyAevarislyn - 22.07.2024 02:47

Just came across you guys tonight! Really enjoying you 2! Forgiveness does not mean you let the person back in to a position where they can hurt you or your family again. You CAN forgive, it brings you peace - but you don't let the person back in! My hope for the royal family is that they keep mememe & This One far away. Especially far away from the Prince & Princess of Wales & their children.

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@paula1028bayer
@paula1028bayer - 22.07.2024 05:07

I think you can forgive someone's transgressions, and not invite them back into your life.

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@barbyoung4084
@barbyoung4084 - 22.07.2024 18:47

Megan runs the show not Harry but it is Harry that is being slammed. Leads me to believe that he is being ruled by his little head. Being in an abusive relationship is being separated from your family and friends so the only person you have is the one pulling the strings. He needs to leave her clutches even though she has the children. It's such a sad situation. Megan is evil and an abusive woman.

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@jllbruce11
@jllbruce11 - 22.07.2024 22:10

You are exactly right.... Your recommendation for cutting out people who are abusive is absolutely spot on no other way to go

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@shadimogadime6977
@shadimogadime6977 - 22.07.2024 22:19

Thank you for your excellent channel and your work. I have dealt with this kind of situation in the past with a sibling and more recently with a business partner. As the saying goes: holding onto a grudge is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. We must forgive for our own health and happiness.

However we can do this in our heart by working through the sorrow, the anger, the feelings of stupidity and being used, the deep sense of betrayal and anything else we are feeling.Then bring compassion into it - for ourselves first. We were doing the best we could with the information and understanding we had at that time. Compassion for ourselves for our own mistakes (especially for enabling). Then compassion for the other person in their 'mental dis-ease' and suffering.

AND we can hold our boundaries. Just because we forgive someone doesn't mean we have to let them back in our life or even interact with them. I think the RF needs to forgive Harry particularly and keep him and Meghan out of their lives.

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@melissatalcott4911
@melissatalcott4911 - 24.07.2024 01:39

I think the reason the BRF maybe hasn't reached our tp Thomas is because he does interviews and I think their all distancing themselves all things Megan Markle and Harry too

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@OliviaHacking-kf7px
@OliviaHacking-kf7px - 25.07.2024 00:45

Why does nobody mention the elephant in the room.
Charles & Catherine are both sensitive souls, the obscene behaviour from Jekyl & Hyde has no doubt largely contributed to their current health conditions.
They are poison in every possible way.

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@m5cto2c16
@m5cto2c16 - 30.07.2024 18:00

Royal family dont want to give Meghan recognition of legidimecy by contacting thomas.

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@m5cto2c16
@m5cto2c16 - 30.07.2024 18:09

You always forgive wrong doings cause we all may need it someday, but surely stay arm length away from them.

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@lbc517
@lbc517 - 30.07.2024 19:59

Congrats 🎉 on the 100th episode! It took me to age 50 to realise that my family member had at least traits of a narcissist and the only way to preserve myself was to cut ties. Had a lot of guilt but it is the ONLY way. Prince William is doing the right thing. I think King Charles needs to actually do more to prevent mm and ph from doing more damage.

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@FionaCrook
@FionaCrook - 30.07.2024 22:26

If any if the RF have any sense, they will keep terrible smarkles very much at arms length and definitely keep her away from their children

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@gaboiphiwenkgowe9685
@gaboiphiwenkgowe9685 - 31.07.2024 08:50

Also forgiveness doesn't mean stupidity, you can forgive and still don't deal with the person you have forgiven. Stopping being hurt is okay.

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@gaboiphiwenkgowe9685
@gaboiphiwenkgowe9685 - 31.07.2024 08:54

They don't reach out to Thomas Markle because they will be opening a can of worms, what will be the end in mind. Relate with who exactly and what for, that could be construed to be manipulating merghan.

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@jjcam8759
@jjcam8759 - 31.07.2024 21:33

A belated thank you for the enjoyable 100th show! You asked what you could have done better - maybe worn your fancy dress costumes for the filming! Excellent points about narcissistic personalities and how to protect oneself from such people. I would disagree somewhat with your generous view of Thomas Markle, though. I would never wonder why he wasn't contacted by the Royal Family, if indeed he hasn't been. The remorseless airing of his family's dirty linen through the media, basically playing the victim and vying for support from the public in the hopes of getting what he wants from her, is so Meghan-like. I even wonder if his "confessions" and self-chastising statements fall within your definition of narcissistic behavior - acting a humbled role in order to elicit sympathy and ultimately power. I feel the entire Markle family is manipulative, not wedded to the truth, and overall very creepy. A case of apples (pardon the pun) falling not too far from that tree.

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@krevace
@krevace - 01.08.2024 05:35

Forgiveness is given regardless of whether or not someone seeks it. A relationship is only given to those seeking truth. That’s Christ’s way of forgiveness. Christ teaches that I don’t need to know what you’ve done to forgive you, only the knowledge of knowing I’ve been guilty of committing wrong in my own way, which makes us equal. But He teaches us to walk away from those who harbor narcissistic traits, because they are unwilling to have an honest relationship. Everyone is freely forgiven.

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@gaganorthofthe49th62
@gaganorthofthe49th62 - 02.08.2024 19:13

To the gentleman on the show, you have it so right about narcissists and the person you thought you knew and loved doesn’t exist.

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@maureenwright5151
@maureenwright5151 - 03.08.2024 15:57

As I said in a previous program comment, been watching all day. And tuned into a few other commentators. QUESTION does MM do anything altruistically good. Like can she be praised for anything? I’m beginning to feel a bit sorry for her!

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@zooperdooper4223
@zooperdooper4223 - 02.09.2024 08:22

LMAO, King Charles couldn't make a secret trip to the bathroom let alone a secret trip to the US. Must be a real slow news day for them make up garbage like that.

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@CzarinaOliveras
@CzarinaOliveras - 27.10.2024 15:21

Watching this just now…I would offer a slightly different opinion…if, by some twist of fate, rachel and henry would ask forgiveness sincerely, I would forgive but not let them back into the fold, keep them at bay, keep them at a thousand arms’ length. The BRF don’t have to talk to them.

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@lostbeyondpluto
@lostbeyondpluto - 24.06.2024 13:23

Hi everyone! Thank you for sharing our 100th episode with us!

Just wanted to clarify that we’re not advocating for holding onto grudges and festering; if by forgiveness you mean moving on, then that’s an entirely different story. We are all for moving on and living your life free of their terror.

By forgiveness we mean letting them in over and over again, always at the cost of your wellbeing; accepting their insincere apologies only to have them hurt you again and again.

If you feel inclined, please share your stories of how you dealt with the narcissists in your lives. It’s incredible how we all come from different walks of life and generations, yet we all (including the BRF) seem to be dealing or have dealt with a very similar nightmare. There’s camaraderie in that, as well as hope for others to know there’s always a way out.

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