Two Mormon Missionaries

dude you were so rude, you put words in there mouths even when they said they didnt think what you said, you wouldnt accept you were wrong,
a discussion thats civil doesnt go like that, you were horrible and disrespectful to them, and im not a mormon ,

Old guy cuts in on young man talking to two young ladies and immediately starts talking about sex with them. "Bruh..."

Here's something the Christian Bible DID say: 1st Enoch is reliable, dependable and authoritative; otherwise the author of the Letter of Jude would not have quoted it for SUPPORT, especially when the quoted passage contains the Creator's Sacred Name, the Tetragrammaton, in the original Hebrew. But then you Protestant Christians love to talk smack about Catholicism while still carrying around a Catholic canon of scripture that wasn't approved of by ANY leading Christian authority until Athanasius in 367 C.E., over THREE HUNDRED YEARS after your Juh-eeee-zuhs allegedly died. Now go find out what 1st Enoch says about Satan and the angels.

I read the Watchtower's "New World Translation" while serving my mission in Duchesne, Utah. It helped me see that Pauline Christianity didn't line up with Mormon doctrine. However, Pauline Christianity also doesn't line up with Jamesian Christianity or with the Hebrew Tanakh (so-called "Old Testament"). Mormonism's belief in the importance of works lines up with their belief that they are actual Israelites.

The "Jeezuhs" (there is no hard J-sound in either Hebrew or Greek, and yet there is no other name under heaven by which man can get saved, we are to believe) of the so-called "New Testament" is not the "Jeezuhs" of history. So there is that.

"Hell" What does the NORSE (Viking) goddess of the underworld have to do with either a Hebrew or Greek belief system? Furthermore, neither Sheol nor Hades are places of eternal fiery torment of souls. This is but one example of how Christianity relies heavily upon its own "traditions and commandments of men".

If only this guy would apply the same magnifying glass to his own beliefs. I guarantee he has no idea all the problems with his own theology. He's just making himself look like a D-bag.

I feel really sorry for the girl in blue. She really looks like she doesn't want to be there.

Adherent of a pagan Roman scam trying to persuade adherents of a pagan Yankee scam that his scam is better than theirs. That's Jesus idolization cults for you......

This is a great example of "My bullshit is better than your bullshit!" The "Holy Bible" is full of moral failures and philosophical fallacies. Examples would be rape, incest, slavery and genocide being condoned and ordered by the god of the the Bible. No scientific evidence of many of the major events the in happening, either! That was pretty mean!

Who gives a shit, it's all faith. In the end, there is no truth to religion. Especially Christianity.

If only he applied his logic to his own false beliefs.

I am a Christian with extended family who are LDS. I began studying their faith 38 years ago. I'd like to offer a few observations about this video and the responses to it.

I agree that asking the LDS what they believe, rather than telling them what they believe, is the better approach to bringing a particular doctrinal or historical LDS teaching up in a conversation. Those who have never been LDS CAN know what any one person has been officially taught by leaders of the church by studying what they/it teaches in church curriculum publications, general conference talks, books written by its leaders, text books on its religion used by students at its church owned schools like BYU, etc. The non-LDS person CAN know what an LDS is supposed to believe but their witnessing to the LDS is better served by not to assuming anything about what any one LDS believes without asking first. State an official teaching and then ask if the LDS if he/she does or doesn't agree with it. Or ask the question " DId you know that..." or "Would it trouble you to learn that..." Asking questions if a good way to invite a person into a conversation, to get them thinking, and if done respectfully, and lead to conversation that's both civil and productive.

The responses to the video are critical of the interviewer's methodology. They state that he is disrespectful, inconsiderate, confrontational, unconvincing, not to be trusted, a bully, browbeating, mean-spirited, delusional, a sad man, horrible and attacking. Not a single response below asks the question "Is what the man claiming to be true actually true? Did Joseph and Brigham actually say what this man claims they said?" Instead, all deflect to the questioner's demeanor or methods, rather than to assess the truthfulness of his claims. This, by the way, is similar to the way the Jewish spiritual leaders responded to the person of Jesus and his ministry - that Jesus was disrespectful, inconsiderate, confrontational, etc. Their response lead them to crucify him on a Cross only later, for some of them, to realize that they had never actually considered whether his claims to be their Messiah were true or not. The LDS are so very much like these Jewish leaders, especially like the Judaizers who later followed Paul around teaching that Gentiles must convert to Judaism and follow the law (wrongfully adding law to grace in the gospel just as the LDS do today) in order to be "true" followers of Jesus.

The predominant issue raised by the responses centers around the man's questionable lack of respect for these young missionaries and the beliefs of their church. I would only mention here that the LDS Church UNQUESTIONABLY does not respect the teachings of biblical Christianity or of biblical Christians. If these two young ladies know and believe the First Vision to be true, as surely they must, then neither do they. The LDS Church teaches that all Christian churches were in a state of total apostasy and that the true church, via the First Vision, had to be restored to the world. Jesus Christ is alleged to have told Joseph Smith in the First Vision that all the denominations were wrong, their creeds an abomination in His sight, their professors corrupt, and that non-LDS Christianity teaches the doctrines of men as though they are the doctrines of God. How can the LDS honestly claim to have any respect for the teachings of the Christian church or for Christians themselves when their Jesus himself holds both in contempt??? The LDS "respect" Christianity outside of the LDS Church only to the extent that it does so disingenuously (another word for deceitfully) and even then only when doing so serves its/their own purposes.

The ultimate question is "Do members of the LDS Church represent a group of fellow Christians or do they represent a mission field for the non-LDS Christian church around the world?" Based on my study, the LDS represent a mission field albeit a most difficult one to work in. Unfortunately, whether you like the man in this video or not, there is a great need for Christians who care enough about the lost status of the LDS people before God to enter the mission field where this man works. The need is great for Christians willing to devote the time and effort necessary to lead the LDS to salvation by faith alone in Christ Jesus.

Finally, It is easy to criticize this man for the way he plants seeds. Better to learn from him, to pray for him, and then to join him in his efforts. Surely some of you who have responded below are ready and willing to do so yoursleves. To you I say join up and help him, or shut up and get out of his way.

I testify that Joseph Smith is the prophet who restored the true gospel of Jesus Christ, and that the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint is the true church.

Sad thing is that he may have the truth but these young ladies are way more professional than this guy

Maybe there are people who live on the sun. They would certainly be a very different kind of "people" from us, but who says they don't exist?

I admire the tenacity of any person led to preach the word and put themselves in situations that can become contentious. But when witnessing Mormons, you have to remember they have no foundations to build on. Quoting scripture and pointing to historical facts bounce off them with little or no impact because they have been conditioned.

The guy sounds like a creepy pervert

I love Mormons they are so sweet but it's with intent most of the time

I don't like his methods but I think it's sad when the missionaries said "that's not true" when they are sadly miss-informed about what their church actually believes. (God had sex with Mary and Satan is Jesus' brother has all been taught ) I also didn't like how the one physically dragged away her companion, why do that? Let that girl make her own choice if she wants to stay thier and have a discussion with those guys. you should not have to force anyone to do anything. She is also wrong about the guys not being allowed to hold signs out on the side walk, that is public space and protected by the first amendment.

You were rude.

Hey when anyone btw, "Mormon" or not says Jesus and Satan are brothers, that's because they are. If you disagree, that's fine. All this has absolutely no merit on my salvation. It's quite obvious to me that when God the Father created ALL our spirits, Jesus Christ's and Satan the devil's included, that clearly makes everyone one of us brothers and sisters. That includes all those that went to hell after the war in heaven. All those even the dark one Satan. Of course with how evil Satan and his eternal hellions are, we rarely call them brothers and sisters. We don't often say Jesus and Satan are brothers because we know just how completely contrary and opposites they are. They STILL are from the same Father God. They both at one point were together in heaven. The relation is obvious. Yet, again I don't make a big song and dance over how very differently someone else believes. They want to get mad and cry about it, then sounds to me like a personal problem. This "Christian" guy was rude as hell too. At least be a gentleman in the presence of young, very church going ladies no matter their faith. No courtesy at all.

Bro, LDS have been the correct denomination of Christianity all along.

Heavenly Father is a real physical being. He knew Mary in order to give Jesus his physical human body. No other option.

What's the point of mocking people? Evil

Leave them alone you believe in one religion they believe in another why does it matter to you? Imagine attacking young women because of their beliefs

That sister missionary in lavedar is a fox! That stupid mormon and many others deny or don't even realize that their cult believes such blasphemous crap! The Christian guy knows more about their own cult! 😂

there HOT

You should show respect to those female mormons. Female mormoms are great, hate the men though.

project "truth" cant even get their church name correct 🤦‍♂️

I went on an LDS mission to Peru, Now I could care less about religion mostly how I was treated by some members of the church, not all are bad but thats enough for me to say bye...I found you kinda ignorant with your last comment sir.....just trying to pick a fight so to speak pretty much, maybe go do something constructive....

Stop men ganging up on women, abrahamics.

Dude, you are very ill mannered. I'll tell you what, if you want to learn instead of strawmaning I'll teach you everything you want to know. But don't go ambushing teenage girls that have no apologetic training. That's a cowards way.
Talk to scriptorians like Robert Boylen or someone of that caliber. But I can teach you the basics.

I love how uncomfortable Mormons gets when you recite their book, just like how Muslims get uncomfortable when you bring up the Hadiths.. Interesting to think about

I thought it said moron

' Missionary Service Training" ---Programing Mormon youth to go abroad and convert, so $$$$ is sent to Salt Lake City.

Both faiths are dumb and can't prove or even explain why a 2000 year old Jewish God is needed to blood sacrifice himself to save humanity as oppossed to just forgiving people when they ask in a prayer. Why the blood sacrifice?

I know we teach that we lds Jesus is the literal Son of God, but we have never taught in any sunday school class that God and Mary had sex.

Orson Pratt wrote in his periodical "the Seer" that God the Father had a relationship with Mary but never said it was sexual, and even then Brigham Young didn't endore The Seer as he felt Orson Pratt had too many doctrinal issues that were wrong.

Further, ive read lesson manuals from thec1970s and 1980s that specifically instructed sunday school teachers to not go beyond what the scriptures taught on that topic.

Also, bringing the whole "Mormons believe God had sex with Mary" thing as opposed to many other issues you could have brought up to a couple of girls is rather creepy.

Just a final note, while LDS do teach that Jesus is literalky the Son of God there is a group that teaches something on the opposite side of the spectrum, if Evangelicals want to align with the Qur'an thats their perogative, but the how of the vigin birth from the Muslim perspective is that Allah said "be" and Mary became pregnant with Jesus. A miraculous creation but in their mind, not the literal or even figurative Son of God.

I'm atheist and it can vary on what it means to be atheist as much as what a person thinks it means to be a Christian.

I'm an evangelical and, brother, you are really arrogant. First of all, you said, "I didn't mean to interrupt," but of course that's exactly what you meant to do. And then to tell these young ladies what they believe? You said, "I'm amazed at how many Mormon missionaries have no idea what their own belief is." Come on, man, if they don't know that something is their belief, then it is obviously not their belief. It seems a lot of the younger LDS generation doesn't know a lot of the things that were said by past leaders, so they don't believe those things, nor are they told to. There are ways to speak truth without being so obnoxious. You told them that you respect them as persons but you sure didn't come across that way at all. You might try asking them what they believe, for starters.

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Why the LDS church is utter BS (coming from a person who almost converted to the LDS church): 1. “the great apostasy” never happened, the catholic church is still strong today thus destroying the argument for a need of a “restored gospel”. 2. The idea that the trinity doesn’t exist and that the father, son, and holy spirit are separate “gods” represented by the “godhead” is contradictory to the teachings of the bible. 3. the idea that when we die we will become gods ourselves is heretical and once again contradictory to the bible. 4. Jesus was not racist, the notion that people of colored skin are “cursed by God” is blasphemy (the fact that the church rejects this notion by a “vision from God” from a “prophet” in 1978 is hilarious). 5. Having “modern-day prophets” rejects the validity of Christ and his purpose which simultaneously rejects the teachings of the bible. 6. Joseph Smith had a horrendous track record and no sane person could truly believe that his words are more valid than the eye witnesses of Jesus. 7. Believing that the Garden of Eden is in Jackson County, Missouri is absurd (waiting for a “prophet” to correct this with a “revelation from God”). 8. The people such as the Nephites mentioned in the book of mormon have no archaeological evidence. 9. The view of apostolic succession through the eyes of Mormons ignores history and is hilariously false. 10. The book of abraham is blatant fiction and is not ancient.

I am guessing the great great great grand daughter of Brigham Young would be Sandra Tanner. She is far more effective and kind than this guy.

this guy is an ass

One manipulated person speaking to other manipulated people. Its quite incredible to see.

Exmormon former missionary here, I served in Atlanta in the late 90s, we were CONSTANTLY bombarded with hateful rhetoric like this - all it did was make me a liberal atheist...

Amen Im an ex mormon now my self is a CULT!!!!!!!!!

You came off really rude and confrontational. I’d walk away, too

Two young ladies had class this guy is a snake handler.

You should put your hand up to become the next Pope of the Catholic Church