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So there the ones who think rock music is evil
ОтветитьThose two and Paul and Morgan wasn’t even watching the same documentary
ОтветитьIt's ironic that Brittany and Kristen are accusing ex-fundies of thinking they're "better than" current fundies when their entire brand is their preening themselves on how superior they are to non-fundies. Psychological projection is rife among the Religious Right.
ОтветитьJesus never said upon this rock I will build my movement, parachurch, lifestyle choice club, dictatorship, “non” profit, tangential emphasis cult.
Since the gates of hell prevailed against all these. They’re not of God.
Love how the girlies are conflating "sinfulness in our own hearts" and "everybody's a sinner" to refute the horrendous crimes of abusive men and gloss over Jim Bob's "sinner in the camp" concept. So we should just live with it?? So we should just coexist with abuse?
ОтветитьIt’s laughable that these type of people have such a limited view of what constitutes a christian. My partner is eastern christian orthodox (which is a denomination that’s probably not that common in the US) and in Europe this type is considered one of the more conservative flavors (my country is the most religious in Europe as well (both by number of total population and conviction of beliefs), but he’s vanilla as hell compared to anything that I see coming out of the states. I’m an atheist and we’ve been together for close to 12 years now and our values are more aligned. Other than the fact that he believes in god (as per the interpretation of his denomination), people like these 2 ladies would be shocked how much that has close to no impact in out daily lives other than the occasional joke. These 2 would even consider my highly religious grandma (an 80y old practicing christian woman - that kept faith through communism) as not being christian enough. Damn!
ОтветитьIt's probably for the best that Kristin and Bethany weren't that involved with iblp. They seem like they would have been Gothard's type
Ответить"Anecdotal?" So.... they will brush over the SA? I can't even with them.
ОтветитьJill and Derek are still IFB llmao
ОтветитьThe fact that Bethany, when asked if she blanket trains her kids, replied, "Not yet. But I neeeeed toooo" on Instagram
ОтветитьUgh they sound like my stepdad, saying that I'm only looking at the people who left and had a bad time with it and not those who are still in it and happy with fundamentalism, like yeah id rather not listen to people who condone/minimize abuse. This coming from the same person who told me blanket training is abusive only in my opinion
ОтветитьSidenote, highly recommend watching some of Cults to Consciousness' interviews with IBLP survivors, including one of the survivors from the Shiny Happy People docuseries, Emily Elizabeth Anderson (tw for talks of CSA and incest), where they go into more details on what they went through and how they got out. She also does interviews with FLDS survivors and talks about similarities between IBLP and FLDS.
Ответить‘Our experience wasn’t fringe’ is giving the same energy as ‘climate change isn’t real because it’s snowing outside’
ОтветитьAs someone who was hurt by IBLP Kristin's use of fringe over and over is infuriating. This "fringe" movement hurt many real people.
ОтветитьIf you drank every time these two say discern, discerning, or discernment in just this one episode, you would need an ambulance.
The thing these two are nasty dancing around is the misogyny so deeply imbedded in IBLP AND their own show 🙄. And here they are exercising their own voices and denying other women that right.
Like Phyllis Schlafly, who was a practicing lawyer saying other women should stay home, not work, and have babies. Hypocrisy.
And interestingly, I went to their video, there are zero comments this far down the line. So they couldn’t find ONE to keep.✌️♥️
did one of the girls in "girl defined" just revictimized the victims that shared their story 😵
ОтветитьMan, Girl Defined use so many words to say absolutely nothing.
ОтветитьThe gay agenda:
6am- sunrise yoga on the east lawn,
9am- couples massage,
11am- brunch,
1pm- pet adoption event
Should’ve named the vid “Jordan and McKay’s reaction to girl defined’s reaction to shiny happy people”😂😂
ОтветитьSide note: the clip in the beginning where Bethany is ready to explode at Kristen talking too much has me begging the question yet again: why does Bethany dress like an 8 year old? So bizarre.
ОтветитьMy next door neighbor ran a day care out of her home. She was a kind woman and would watch our three daughters in the hour overlap between my husband and i’s shifts. I knew her family was religious but she seemed harmless. We became friends over the years. It wasn’t until years after our girls were in school that I realized how fundie she really was. Our first disagreement was about the Duggar family. This was before Josh was exposed as a predator. My neighbor and I disagreed politely about the fact that she thought they were the best thing ever and I just was seeing red flag after red flag with them. She couldn’t let it go that I didn’t agree with how these kids were being raised by siblings etc and the fact that I always had a creepy vibe from them but didn’t know exactly why until 2015. My neighbor knew none of the suspicious things people had on them and was shocked to hear that I found them odd. She disclosed to me that she and her husband had some premarital counseling from Bill Gothard himself. It was cathartic to finally be able to put my finger on the uneasy feeling I got from them when everything came out. My neighbor was shocked!!!
ОтветитьDid i watch shiny happy people, no will i watch it definitely not on girl defineds channel will i watch this fuck ya. 😂❤
Ответитьthey're just "no true scotsman"-ing christianity. no true christian would be abusive so the iblp isn't truly christian. josh duggar wasn't "transformed by christ in his heart" except for the fact that his fundamentalist upbringing fostered his predatory behavior. "no teaching outside the gospel can transform". it's just another way to avoid examining their own beliefs and actions in conjunction with abusive systems
ОтветитьOne happy thing that happened to Josh is he's in jail.
ОтветитьThank you so much for the massively important work you do!
Jordan, I can't imagine how hard it must be to suffer through listening to their awful, disgusting crap as a survivor yourself - so thank you especially for enduring it!
I am an atheist never-mo who grew up atheist and I appreciate so much learning about these dangerous perspectives and all the work you put in to help people see what's really behind all that.
💗💜💙
“The fact that the abuse was done in the name of Christ is the worst” as if the abuse itself isn’t bad enough 🤦♀️🤷♀️ it’s only about Christ’s PR 🙄
Ответитьi'm confused about why they think their experience of not being abused matters? it's like when someone comes forward about being abused or assaulted by someone and some idiots say "but that never happened to me, they've always been nice to me!!" as if it matters?? the fact that it didn't happen to some people is irrelevant, the experiences of the people who it did happen to are the most important thing to discuss. the people who it didn't happen to are irrelevant and should stfu
ОтветитьI swear if I hear either of them say “like” one more time I’m going to feed them to Bill Gothard.
ОтветитьI feel a bit of dejavu here. Didn't porgan react in a similar way where the one thing that seemed to upset them the most was Jill not getting paid all those years? Absolutely it was wrong, but just interesting that both channels were directly upset at the financial aspect of abuse but had a lame song and dance about every other kind of abuse these people endured. Very telling, imo.
ОтветитьIt's funny....for such Christ-focused ladies they barely ever talk about Christ, the New Testament, historical scholarship or theological scholarship. What are they even doing?
ОтветитьThe girl on the right McKayla drank too much dog water. Jordon straight hyena the filthy mouth on these people. Are they sisters cousins? Ex morons, I know that. That explains it. Mikayla could use a serious stylist. She’s very pretty, but could use some help poor girl.
ОтветитьDon’t you just love the Christian view point of “it didn’t happen to ME, so I don’t think it’s happening…” or “it didn’t happen to ME, therefore it’s absolutely NOT happening.”
Also, anyone else wanna take a shot every time one of them says, “as Christians”…? I lost count after like… 5…
I wonder if conservative Christians are aware that not even Jesus was Christian. He was born and raised a Jew. If Jesus was around today, he would NOT be identifying as a conservative Christian. I mean, correct me if I’m wrong, but it was Christians who put Jesus on that cross and murdered him. Wasn’t it?
ОтветитьBethy deconstructing by accident after giving one too many Christian sex courses.
Ответить“Not the end all be all”
We want you to follow us but we don’t want to be at fault or held responsible in any way for your actions from following our teachings.
Ex Christian. Immersion Native homeschooler. I was triggered. But…not because I felt called out. It called out a lot that happened to myself. And validated me in my decision to leave. But it was heavy.
ОтветитьI showed up here immediately after I stumbled upon Girl Defined’s video on Shiny Happy People. I made it about 40 seconds before I was so nauseated I had to stop. They were so flippant immediately. It was disgusting.
ОтветитьWish the word " like " could be taken out of the English language
ОтветитьPaul and Morgan melting down--like the wicked witch of the west!
ОтветитьCan we get a Bethy “like” count?
ОтветитьInteresting how the beige girlies' backgrounds could have been the same background. It's like AI created one background from the other.
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