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Quarry would have ruled the 1950s heavyweight divison. He had good hand speed, a great chin and a high ring IQ. With no 210 pound quality heavyweights around, who would stop him?
ОтветитьYOU'RE FLAT OUT BEATING A DRUM.
ОтветитьRocky never beat one prime topnotch genuine 200+lbs Heavyweight and had life and death struggles with the guys he did beat, as for Patterson well Moore gave Rocky a tussle and put Rocky down, Moore did not put Patterson down, in fact Patterson beat him with sheer ease and as for Liston well he absolutely destroyed Patterson and then did it again with ease stamping and proving once and for all that he was a true powerhouse. Facts combined with simple basic boxing knowledge suggest a comfortable win for Liston over Rocky.
ОтветитьDream on
ОтветитьQuarry was a Lame duck.....
ОтветитьYou must be kidding if he thinks he would’ve beaten him
ОтветитьNope
ОтветитьQUARRY WOULD HAVE EASILY BEATEN MARCIANO. MARCIANO WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN IN THE RING WITH A YOUNG DUDE WHO COUULD PUNCH, HE NEVER FACED ELIGHT TALENT
ОтветитьRocky never beat one prime topnotch genuine 200+lbs Heavyweight and had life and death struggles with the guys he did beat, as for Patterson well Moore gave Rocky a tussle and put Rocky down, Moore did not put Patterson down, in fact Patterson beat him with sheer ease and as for Liston well he absolutely destroyed Patterson and then did it again with ease stamping and proving once and for all that he was a true powerhouse. Facts combined with simple basic boxing knowledge suggest a comfortable win for Liston over Rocky.
ОтветитьYour full of sheet😅
ОтветитьFrazier ducked Liston, understandably so.
ОтветитьPatterson got screwed; he beat Quarry both times. If you think Quarry could have beaten Marciano, either you don't know the sport or you have a habit of bullshitting yourself.
ОтветитьQuarry got ragdolled twice by Frazier, who had a similar style to Marciano only he didn't hit as hard. Him saying he would beat the Rock is dubious at best
ОтветитьI always liked Jerry Quarry & rooted for him to win. He gave it his all in the ring in every bout he fought! Unfortunately for Jerry he just couldn’t win the big one. RIP Jerry Quarry..
ОтветитьMost popular to who? Please Jerry was to easy to cut
ОтветитьNow that is funny
ОтветитьHow much rhetoric and how many exaggerations on Marciano. It's not very difficult to remain an unbeaten champion for only 3 years with only 6 title defenses. How many boxers remained unbeaten for a longer period? Many, among many others. Ali and Louis, two giants compared to Marciano, remained at the top respectively for 14 and 12 years, an eternity. The first even had to stand still for 3 years, an eternity for a boxer. Marciano quit early. Just after 3 years. So he avoided being severely punished by a younger and stronger boxer as has Always happened in the history of boxing. This is important. Keep in mind that Rocky's 6 title defenses were against 4 light heavyweights masquerading as 175 lb Heavyweights and 1 cruiserweight. With what we All know today little Rocky should not even be categorized as an Authentic 200+lbs Heavyweight.
ОтветитьLouis bravely fought (17) years...........little Rocky only 7 years
Walcott bravely fought (23) years.......little Rocky only 7 years
Charles bravely fought (20) years.......little Rocky only 7 years
Moore bravely fought (27) years.........little Rocky only 7 years
Savold bravely fought (19) years........little Rocky only 7 years
Matthews bravely fought (19) years...little Rocky only 7 years
LaStarza bravely fought (14) years.....little Rocky only 7 years
Cockell bravely fought (10) years.......little Rocky only 7 years
Lowry bravely fought (16) years.........little Rocky only 7 years
1946 (Rocky's amateur bouts)
1. April 15, 1946 Henry Lester (L-DQ3)
2. August 23, Frederic L. Ross KO-1
3. August 23, Richard Jarvis KO-1
4. August 23, Joe DeAngelis (Loss-3)
1947
5. January 17, Jim Connolly KO 1
6. Jan 17, Bob Girard (Loss-3)
1947-03-17 PROFESSIONAL Lee Epperson fights Amateur Rocky Mack aka Rocky Marciano. Then Rocky goes back to the amateurs Jan, Feb, and March in 1948.
1948 (Rocky goes back to the amateurs)
7. Jan 26, Joe Sidlaskis KO-1
8. February Charlie Mortimer KO-3
9. February George McInnis TKO-1
10. March 1, Coley Wallace (Loss-3)
11. March Fred Fischera KO
12. March George McGinnis W-3
1948-07-12 (Rocky goes back to pro) Professional Harry Bilazarian fights Rocky Marciano.. Don Cuoco and Don Cogswell just started legal proceedings to remove the Rocky Mack fight vs. Lee Epperson because once Pro you cannot go back to the amateurs.
Louis fought (69) times.............little Rocky quit at 49
Walcott fought (70) times.........little Rocky quit at 49
Charles fought (121) times.......little Rocky quit at 49
Moore fought (220) times.........little Rocky quit at 49
Savold fought (142) times.........little Rocky quit at 49
Matthews fought (103) times...little Rocky quit at 49
LaStarza fought (66) times.......little Rocky quit at 49
Cockell fought (81) times..........little Rocky quit at 49
Lowry fought (150) times..........little Rocky quit at 49
Layne fought (70) times............little Rocky quit at 49
Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times
Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times
Walcott Lost (20) times and was KOd (6) times
Savold Lost (43) times and was KO'd (12) times
Lowry Lost (68) times and was KO'd (3) times
Cockell Lost (14) times and was KO'd (9) times
LaStarza Lost (9) times and was KO'd (2) times
Layne Lost (17) times and was KO'd (6) times
Shocking isn't it? We never see these stats bcz they're always suppressed. Today's Genuine Super Heavyweights Miller Zhang Bakole Joshua Fury Ruiz Parker Kabayel Itauma Jalolov Dubois only have a combined (15) losses yet they're already being thrown under the bus for eternity but it's perfectly fine for little Rocky's little opponents to have a combined ((753)) losses!!!
HOW MANY LOSSES DID THE "'BEST"' HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME HAVE:
Lewis --------- 2
Holmes ------ 6
Ali -------------- 5
Vitali ----------- 2
Foreman ---- 5
Tyson -------- 6
Wladimir ---- 5
Bowe --------- 1
Liston -------- 4
Louis --------- 3
Holyfield -- 10
Frazier ------- 4
Norton ------- 7
Tunney ------ 1
Dempsey --- 6
Johnson --- 11
"SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis
"The Heavyweight version of Charles,” Dettloff sums up, “would get a lot of good work done. But on the best day of his life, he was no more a Heavyweight than Ray Robinson. He never would be as good there as he was at light heavy and below.” -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015
"Ezzard was intentionally ducked by champions in both the middleweight and light heavyweight divisions. As a result, Charles was forced into the 175 lb Heavyweight division despite never being a true Heavyweight." -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015
"Charles lost the title to Walcott in 1951. Ailing Charles tried to regain the Heavyweight title three times, losing once to Walcott in 1952 and twice to Marciano in 1954. Charles a spent force by that time, who, from 1951 on was suffering from the symptoms of ALS." -- written by William Dettloff author of "Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life" 2015
Rocky fans always talk about Charles being only 33 when he fought Rocky but what they always fail to mention is that Charles was the #2 ranked middleweight in the world when he was only 19 years old. Charles had already been through numerous wars (trauma) throughout the entire 1940s. Charles fought Moore 3 times, Bivins 4 times, Maxim 5 times, etcetera.
Low-power (42% KO's) middleweight/light heavyweight Charles already had 95 fights by the time he faced Rocky. Imagine if the roles were reversed and Rocky had those 95 fights?
41 year old middleweight/light heavyweight Moore already had 178 fights by the time he faced Rocky. Imagine if the roles were reversed and Rocky was 41 with 178 fights? Per family request Moore's birthdate was recently changed at Wikipedia to 1913. Moore was factual 41 when he fought Rocky!!!
Charles/Moore didn't even need to fight Rocky!!! They still would have been entered into the Hall of Fame for what they already accomplished in the middleweight and light heavyweight divisions!!! Little Rocky fights a bunch of has-been light heavyweights and his legacy ends up being the Greatest Heavyweight that ever lived. What a Joke!!!
Ezzard Charles said he first noticed the ailment in 1951, "after a guy hit me, I didn't seem to be able to get away," he recalled, "I didn't have the same coordination." Ezzard himself, his family, Lou Duva, Burt Sugar, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Brown, Ferrera and Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. --'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff
There's no room for debate, too many reputable witnesses.
(Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking lived with ALS for 55 years).
Any questions about the validity then I'd suggest filing defamation lawsuits against Ezzard, his family, all his trainers, Duva, Sugar, and biographer William Dettloff.
Where does everyone get their information about WWI & WWII? From numerous History books. Where does everyone get their information about Marciano? From biographies and witnesses testimony. Where does everyone get their information about Charles? From his biography and witnesses testimony. Okay then how can anyone say Charles did 'Not' have symptoms of ALS (1951) long before he fought Marciano in 1954 if they've never read Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life by William Dettloff?
ОтветитьRocky ducked Marty Marshall, Johnson, Maxim, Pompey, Bivins, Satterfield, Valdez, Lloyd Marshall, Oakland Billy Smith, Clarence Henry, Curtis "Hatchetman" Sheppard, Jackson, Bucceroni and Baker just to name a few. Fast forward to the end of his extremely short career and all that was left were has-beens. WWII Korea back to back. Don't fight any that could beat us then leave before the young exposes us. Rocky was very carefully managed by Mob Boss Frankie Carbo, tomato can after tomato can. There's no way to sugarcoat it,, Rocky's 175 lb Heavyweight division was the smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history!
ОтветитьSoft spoken Lennox Lewis at his best was the total package. The last undisputed Heavyweight champion emerged as cream of the crop against some of the biggest punchers in Heavyweight history. Lennox avenged his only two defeats by knockout. He didn't make excuses for his losses, he said, "It's Heavyweights, you can get caught, but i won the rematches in style," and "Show me a Heavyweight champion without a loss and i'll show you a fighter that fought a lot of nobodies."
In my opinion 59 year old Lennox Lewis is the GOAT. To hear him talk so clearly and eloquently after going up against 18 Heavyweight Champions is remarkable.
The 18 HW Champions Lewis faced: Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker, Hasim Rahman, Oliver McCall, Mike Weaver, Henry Akinwande, Tommy Morrison and Ray Mercer were later recognized as WBO champions, British HW champion Gary Mason, European HW champion Jean Chanet, Commonwealth HW champion Derek Williams, Canada HW champion Razor Ruddock, IBF/WBF HW champion Michael Grant and WBC International HW champion David Tua [[ technically not all were 'World' champions but champions nonetheless ]] Other notable mentions; Olympic HW Silver medalist Riddick Bowe, Olympic HW Gold medalist Tyrell Briggs, Andrew Golota, Zeljko Mavrovic, Frans Botha and Phil Jackson
How many prime topnotch
genuine 200+lbs Heavyweight
and 224+lbs Super Heavyweight
Champions did little 184 lb Rocky fight?
Imagine little Rocky trying to fight topnotch
Super Heavyweights with 80" to 86" albatross
wingspans and 30 to 100 lb weight advantages?
I'm sorry Heavyweight was only 175 back then bcz it sure as hell ain't today. It's no wonder Emanuel Steward, an American boxer, trainer, and proven boxing Genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, "Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small." @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
It's amazing the way Rocky fans belittle Lennox for losing twice yet they always fail to mention the ((753)) losses Rocky's opponents had? Why is that? For Pete's sake ((753)) losses is astronomical. Why so many? "In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results—The real stumble-bums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time boxing, the less-talented fighter often gets most of the cash. He is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably and helping other fighters pad their records." --The Ring Magazine by Andy Bowers
Quarry is bigger than Rocky. but I'd rate Rocky vs Frazer as a more even fight.
ОтветитьForeman's management was avoiding Quarry as George was building his record. I feel Foremen would have blasted Jerry out in two rounds, perhaps George's management knows something I don't.
ОтветитьEvery one of Marciano’s opponents said they would beat him. God bless Jerry, heck of a fighter.
ОтветитьJerry couldn't beat the Black Rocky --Smokin Joe Frazier
Ответитьquarry did not hit hard enough to bother Rocky. he would have become a quarry for Rocky
ОтветитьSilly Jerry.
ОтветитьGerry will always live on. A great fighter. ❤
ОтветитьMarciano would certainly beat that punch drunk bum. Quarry couldn’t even beat Patterson. A true champion finds a way to win. That’s not Quarry.
Ответитьjerry was very good i dont think he was rugged enough...he would not have beaten rocky marciano...the chuvalo fight was stupid ...zack clayton counting him out??
ОтветитьMaybe ? Rocky was 13 1/2 stone and Jerry was a pumped up heavyweight.He was probably the best cruiserweight ever.Jerry was way too small as a heavy.
ОтветитьRocky would have knocked him out
ОтветитьIf he fought Marciano he would have been ruined
ОтветитьMarciano beat old men and a blow up middleweight in Charles. Rocky never a Ali Frazier Shavers Mathis or a Jerry Quarry
ОтветитьHe would have beaten Marciano
ОтветитьUmmmm NO! Marciano would have knocked him out in the mid or later rounds
ОтветитьImagine what he would have done to Fury,AJ and their ilk.What he did to Shavers was just a small example of what he was capable of.
ОтветитьReality is for the top heavyweights of his day Jerry was a welcome fight as they could easily win as Quarry wasn't much more than a punching bag. He won a round against Frazier ...so what the rest of the fight was a total disaster. He got cut against Frazier the guy says ??? He got the living shit beat out of him...
Ответитьno you wouldn't
Ответитьmarciano never lost and he wouldn't lose to quarry.
ОтветитьJerry quarry I. Could. Beat. Rocky Marciano
Reality. No. No. You couldn't. Get. A. Grip
Jerry Ouarry a great boxer, warrior never won but to me he is heavyweight 🏆 of the world 🌎 RIP
ОтветитьQuarry never did well against swarmer's like Joe Frazier. Jerry didn't like to train he drank too much and did coke. Marciano would have beaten Jerry to a pulp and knocked him cold after busting his face up. What a joke.
ОтветитьIdk... rocky knew martial arts..he knew pressure points to hit
ОтветитьMarciano was a warrior in the gym. No one came into the ring in Better shape, every single time. Quarry was the opposite. Critics said his prep was getting a haircut and a shave.
Ответить...and then you woke up
ОтветитьGreat great boxer seriously good boxed all the greats mate tuff man
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