It's Time To Remove Power Level From Destiny 2

It's just 10 lvls sure it's going to suck but literally it's not crying over lol

I don't understand this Drama with power level increase. 😕
P.S. what i don't like its that we need to wait for 2 weeks until new episode releases ☹️

This system is too tedious to not be properly rewarding.

There's no knockout system, so you can run a whole raid/dungeon and if RNG isn't on your side you'll get 3 Pinnacles for slots that they don't matter in. That's only if you grind the current raid/dungeon.

If you don't have access to the current raid/dungeon, you have to play an old dungeon/raid for a Pinnacle from the last encounter. So if you can't get a final checkpoint, looks like you're grinding a whole raid/dungeon just for the 1 pinnacle, which again can go to a slot it's not needed in due to no knockout system for the pinnacle grind.

Then when you are finally able to complete this annoying grind, you're rewarded less than you used to be because some people thought us being properly rewarded for meeting or exceeding the power set of an activity was "too much" and made us "too powerful."

I'm so sick of hearing that phrase. We'll never be how we're described in the lore and people want us to be on the weaker end for some absurd reason.

To many people have to much to say about destiny
Get a life

Don’t forget, power is shared amongst a fireteam now too. It’s truly useless and just a way to force you to play more.

U PEOPLE NEED TO STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT EVERYTHING!!! No power level is like playing cod wit no level it just makes it bland

Complain if they do something, complain when they do nothing, complain that you have to play, complain when u cant play, complain when its not what u want, complain when it is what u want, shut the fucc up and play the game or play something fucking else.

I just dont want to raid & dont want to play a class that I dont enjoy just for the pinnacles.

Add "pinnacle" to engram tracker and let us get them from the activity we enjoy on the class we enjoy. That is the compromise.

To add to the pain. Did you know there are no pinicals for pvp players.

I can’t stand my items not being maxed out either! I just finished getting my 600 items in my vault all at 2000! What can we do to get them to listen to us ? !!!

yeah man, not impressed with the power grind at all. really limiting moving my loadouts around and powering up armour and weapons. rng not kind too with pinny drops

Why do bungie absolutely insist on putting a downer on Destiny 2, are they crazy?

Also, plans for next year do not inspire confidence 😢

@itzTizzle I have watched & listened to this entire video, thank you for taking the time for making it. I agree with your points. It's a shame that bungie have created a situation for you to feel the way you do about the game, I hope they stop these changes ASAP. Best wishes.

I dont get why people get upset or pissed its just like 10 powerlevel more then everybody is right now so it really doesnt matter and even if you stay at 2000 you will not see much difference if you get 2010 and also there is always gonna be someone who is high engouh to push the other players powelevel up

The light level and it's importance is only important if the game is in demand. Bungie is actively trying to enable new lights to enjoy all content with minimum barrier as all they've heard for years is there is a huge barrier to entry.

Don't you remember the respect my time complaints and why is there such a grind there should be rng protection?

Well you got it. Red borders,
And meaningless light levels so no one has to grind and everyone has everything.

They are trying to cater too old d1 vets and no lifers and new lights and casuals.

Dumbest take of all time, power levels are a core element of any looter shooter, rpg or mmo, just say your to lazy n leave it at that

Great content. I Really like your idea of upgrading the weapon or gear slot.
I wish there is clear indicators of what my HP is what my damage is etc....
That is why is satisfying to grind in games like Elden Ring because you can clearly see what you are grinding for...

I agree with you 100%, we did all that grinding for 2000 gear and you think ima do that again 😂 hell to the nahhhhhhh

I legitimately think that the best thing they can do to prolong engagement is open up build diversity by allowing 2 exotic items on each side. Not just increasing a monotonous number grind. Imagine Gyrfalcon chest piece with Galanor/Crytarachne class item. I would love to just mess around with all the unique interactions. My eyes are on blight ranger with dombadiers running winter's shroud and dusk field grenades to freeze everyone and drop a bomb and keep moving. There's so much we be able to experiment with especially with adjustments to prismatic going forward. Bungie is sitting on a feature that could bring in and hold a lot of engagement. "Even if it breaks the code..."

Please for the love of God remove it. It's just an artificial grind that's awful.

To I barely purchased TFS a month ago, I’m not up to level yet and now I won’t be. Wish they would give us a chalice built into our ghosts. Let us choose which drops we get. We tired of random well I am

I feel like the only “levels” we should be grinding are our season pass. It shouldn’t contribute to damage just as a metric to watch. However I say this because of the difficulty setting. I believe players who want to challenge themselves and Master the game should be able to choose their own handicaps. Like Skulls from Halo, these guys used to know how to add in level modifiers, it was one of the things I enjoyed about Nightfall passes at the end of year 1 of D2. If you can select a difficulty then those difficulties need to offer new mechanics on top of enemies having more health, I’m a little excited for the “Banes” but what I want or new movement and attack patterns from bosses and even champions. I feel like those would be more challenging venues for the game. I just hate the currency grind in those game it’s the most off putting aspect of d2. D1 rise of iron was my favorite everything got you to the level and if you were a grinder it got you there faster. I want players who have a method to have an advantage over me but I also don’t want to have to worry about resources

I was frustrated about the power increase before i watched youre video.
Having someone smarter than me explaining it like you did made me even more frustrated. If i wasnt at work i would go punch some drywall..

Hit the nail on the head with the D1 comparison. The game was more fun when you were actually rewarded for being a higher level and not just punished for being lower.

Base power for the dungeon is 1985

I’m still missing a 2000 lvl helmet 😭

The thing I don’t get is people claiming they want a “gear reset” to have something to grind for, but then the same people whine about 10 light levels. I can’t get my head around it.

Just to let you know, after the first 3 teams clear contest mode, it will unlock normal mode, so you'll be able to make your guide fairly quick. Also, the Pathfinder rewards are actually pinnacle, even though they say Prime

I still need to do salvations edge to get back to rank 10. I work so much it’s hard for me to find people to help me run it.

I wouldn’t mind a video from you explaining 5-7 things you’d like Bungie to innovate on for Destiny

im just pissed that its not a perfect 2000 anymore, it was the right number to stop at and then axe the power system

I hate this change too but you don't have to run the raids again. You should level up naturally with doing the dungeon and pinnacles from the seasonal activity. When Final Shape dropped, I got to pinnacle cap within 2 weeks of hardcore grinding and optimizing and it was such a waste of time because the bonus power was useless. GMs wouldn't come out till later and I would have reached pinnacle by that point by just naturally playing the game.

What I am saying is just play the game naturally and not in a way that makes you hate it. Protect ya mental.

its like perfectly terrible, If you're a fan of the power grind i doubt 10 levels is enough to get you excited while simultaneously if you hate the power grind 10 levels is enough to be annoying. it's literally the perfect disaster.

Losing sleep over destiny is such no life bullshit get your money out of this game, get your battle passes done and please quit such a worthless game

They should remove power level and champions.

if they don't take that back I am finally done. I hate them for this. how stupid you have to be. its an absolute outrage

The power bump is 10 pathetic levels. You can reach that in literally no time.

Im not even sure how to really even power grind i been trying to figure this out

I would pay 10 ascendant shards to have all my gear of one type permanently pinnacle cap on all my characters

The worst part is how they went about it.

Talk about "the endgame player" but still not have flawless requirement on dungeon and raid seals

Do it a week before

Have a whole goddam job called "power level expert" (????) who seems not to understand why this system was removed before despite being called a "expert" on it

People are leaving bc of changes like this because it's a value of time without respecting it as you said and they're still just toying with edge cases of what the minimum viable product is for destiny and how it can feed into the casual audience. Rather than remaking the grind to garner respect like exotics and light level did in D1, it's now a resource sink to keep even veterans constantly scrounging for more all to insert a numeric key that artificially moves forward into activities just to be able to use whatever we want to use.

It's not a big deal

They don't want to make more content so that's an easy way to make people play what's in the game already. Also power level should not be tight to the gear but the character. Infusing items for power is such a lame mechanic in 2025

For me, best case scenario for Destiny would be making power disabled/minus power a toggle, making getting Pinnacle gear actually good instead of getting the same piece over and over again, and having the focus be not on just a check list grind for a god roll, but for activities to be actually fun.

Episode: Echoes was a terrible episode as a whole and having that minus power for the activities made them worse to do. I would love to do activities that are actually fun rather than do the same annoying dungeon over and over again just for an exotic drop to almost never drop because rng is absolutely terrible in this game.

For that part alone, I would rather do an exotic quest for said Dungeon/raid like the Gjallarhorn quest for Grasp of Avarest and for that activity to be fun rather than something like Salvation's Edge and its want for you to do activities perfectly by dealing with a bs timer and having to do a single section 3 times just to progress to the next and do it again all for just a lower chance then a gacha game at getting that stupid exotic.

It's more than a bone, I've got a shovel in my hand! The grind is bad enough but this @#%@# RNG that accompanies this is maddening! What's the point? I've got all THREE characters at 1999 and not a single class item at 2000. I have TEN 2K kinetic weapons, SIX 2K energy weapons, TWO 2K heavy weapons, THREE 2K Titan Helmets, FOUR 2K Titan Gauntlets, ONE 2K Chest, TWO 2K Legs, and ZERO Class item. Titan 1999 7/8. Warlock 1999 5/8. Hunter 1999 6/8. This BS will drive me from the game. I play a TON and I've really had it. THIS will be my last grind, I have better far less annoying things to do. I've got far too many touching grass and real touchable items that I'll always have like my photography. 7K+ hours in, but I've had it with this grind - one more time and done! Watch me...

It is t e n l e v e l s over 4 m o n t h s. It'll get done in the background over time

I just got back into playing the game just to try and finish Witch Queen, then I found out they put power level caps on STRIKES! NOT EVEN THE NIGHTFALL ONES, JUST REGULAR FUCKING STRIKES. Never before have I wanted to find the guy in Bungie who thought it was a good idea and yell at them so much that we both start crying.

I put 2000 hours into this game, I’m not spending another second grinding for 2 weeks to make a number higher that will just increase in 3 months. Power level killed this game.

"1955 power needed" yeah but most content is way higher than that battle level. Same goes for 2005 power level or above, enemies are at 2030 it's ridiculous