Who Really Won the War of 1812?

Who Really Won the War of 1812?

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@dano9008
@dano9008 - 21.11.2024 11:11

Charlton Heston and Yul Brynner won the war of 1812 by defeating the British near New Orleans (which is not even close to Canada). Sorry, Canada.

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@Keifsanderson
@Keifsanderson - 21.11.2024 16:41

Not mentioned: This war solidified a strong US Navy as a necessary branch. Most of the war saw the British blockade all of America.

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@torarildhenriksen371
@torarildhenriksen371 - 21.11.2024 18:26

I know who won, the contractor who got the paintjob. Making the not white house white.😅

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@brucemooney1277
@brucemooney1277 - 21.11.2024 22:10

I was scholarized in the province of Quebec's public system, in the 00s and the 10s. I can assure you that the 1812 war and the ensuing american invasion of Canada is but a footnote in our manuals. Tecumseh, Laura Secord and other figures are never mentionned (in fact, I just learned about them here and there, thanks to this video). Our national saga covers the Nouvelle-France era, then the British conquest of 1763, then the intentional assimilation that WE (emphasis on the ''we'' catholic French-Canadians vs "them" protestant British) were subject to between 1763 and 1837, then the 1837-1838 rebellion of numerous patriots against the Governor of Lower Canada, then straight to the formation of a united Canada in 1867. The "canadian saga" and sentiment of unity that you speak of, I've never heard lol

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@Semperiratus
@Semperiratus - 21.11.2024 22:49

the lengths folk will go to avoid saying the words " yes, , america tried to conquer canada, and got it's ass kicked, america lost the war of 1812', ffs. victory in war is determined by whether or not the aims that caused the war to be launched, were achieved. america did not achieve those aims, therefore, it lost the war that it started. it is not complicated. it does not matter if it benefited in the long run outside of those aims, the aims were not achieved, the folk they tried to conquer, kicked the crap out of them. there is no actual valid way to argue that that is not a lost war.

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@gandhithegreat328
@gandhithegreat328 - 22.11.2024 00:52

I don’t think this war would have been seen as a tie without Andrew Jackson besting the crap out of the British at New Orleans

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@gandhithegreat328
@gandhithegreat328 - 22.11.2024 01:02

British Navy: Yo dudes! The Empire’s pretty chill. Maybe you could like join it or something?

American Sailors: 😮

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@brangertheburger4227
@brangertheburger4227 - 22.11.2024 20:52

It was a draw between the Bri’ish and Americans I’m not saying Canada cause they were part of England or the UK at the time so no Canada didn’t win since they weren’t a country yet

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@mecha1gold
@mecha1gold - 23.11.2024 23:25

Something that was not mentioned in this video is that the UK got the financing for this war because of the French invation of Spain; New Spain and the government in Cadiz approved sending the "Royal fifth" of taxes that were usually sent to the Spanish Crown to be sent to pay the British Army and help them get rid of Napoleon in Spain, of course the payment was more than enough and so Britain got money for it's military expeditions all over the world. This compounded with south american counties like New Granada future Grand Colombia also paying the British in gold and silver but to figth off the Spanish there in their effor for independence. Many Latin american countries got into debt with England and this continued helping the British economy for decades.
We can even say that the lack of financing of the Mexican Army because of it's many issues and it's large debt with England made it so that they could not figth the Americans looking to expand west and so the US was able to expand further.

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@SONofTHC
@SONofTHC - 24.11.2024 08:44

Just another Tuesday 💪🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👍

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@kevinmassey1164
@kevinmassey1164 - 24.11.2024 20:26

If everyone gained something seems more like nobody lost

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@anthonysaunders345
@anthonysaunders345 - 25.11.2024 05:32

In a strange way, both the Americans and Canadians won; the war contributed to what those nations are today. I can tell you who lost, though: Native North Americans.

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@spongebakesquarepansgaming
@spongebakesquarepansgaming - 25.11.2024 11:26

i know this is oversimplified but the reason why Washington was burned is because the Americans burned down York now know as Toronto

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@jaredvaughan1665
@jaredvaughan1665 - 25.11.2024 11:35

It was the abusive mistreatment of the loyalists that resulted in their staunch defensive of Canada and the US forever never taking Canada.

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@TheKiltedGerman
@TheKiltedGerman - 25.11.2024 12:32

It isn't a stretch to say the US was just playing country prior to the War of 1812. The country got much more serious upon realizing the entire continent wouldn't just roll over for it.

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@sheilah4525
@sheilah4525 - 25.11.2024 21:54

Probably Napoleon who survived a bit longer with Britain wasting time here, accomplishing nothing.

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@marcbelisle5685
@marcbelisle5685 - 26.11.2024 08:03

Francis Scott Key won the War of 1812.

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@bigjoem9808
@bigjoem9808 - 26.11.2024 17:33

Technically no one technically everyone

America achieved 3 out of 4 goals in the war

Britain protected its assets, I will not count Canada because that was not a country and no where near being one at that point it was a colony and had no goals other than survive.

British Allie’s lost and where betrayed

And American Allies objectively Won

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@chriswyles553
@chriswyles553 - 26.11.2024 22:24

If Britain had invaded France and the result was napoleon burning down the Houses of Parliament, forcing an enduring peace and France retaining her colonial posessions, I’m pretty sure we’d say the French won… just saying

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@timothy6672
@timothy6672 - 27.11.2024 07:23

USA! USA! USA!

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@AĺexanderMartin-r8v
@AĺexanderMartin-r8v - 27.11.2024 08:27

Love war of 1812 history thank you Armchair historian.

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@stevehickling7313
@stevehickling7313 - 27.11.2024 12:11

What rubbish! How many American citizens were actually press ganged into the Royal Navy? The real reason for the war was US imperialism, which after its failure to expand northwards by 1815 was forced to expand westwards instead.

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@brendenstyre4784
@brendenstyre4784 - 28.11.2024 05:19

The only real losers of the war were the natives

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@TheIceman567
@TheIceman567 - 28.11.2024 08:26

Great video, very accurate

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@nathanthomson1931
@nathanthomson1931 - 29.11.2024 01:23

There needs to be a movie about Isaac Brock. Dude was a total badass!

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@patrickcloutier6801
@patrickcloutier6801 - 29.11.2024 02:23

An interesting narrative.

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@Harbringe
@Harbringe - 29.11.2024 04:21

The US tried to take Canada while Britain was fighting Napoleon , Canadian irregulars stopped the initial invasion and the British in the final year burned the White House down. Canada won.

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@seanbumstead1250
@seanbumstead1250 - 29.11.2024 17:04

We won 🇨🇦

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@Computer-v5e
@Computer-v5e - 30.11.2024 09:53

I like the animation

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@krusher9977
@krusher9977 - 30.11.2024 12:04

Isn't it wild how powerful the UK used to be? Nowadays you think about them about as much as Serbia or something but they used to be such a powerhouse. Same with Spain as well. Crazy every time I realize it.

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@fadran11
@fadran11 - 01.12.2024 10:44

"Who won the War of 1812? America or Britain?"

"Canada."

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@General_Belu
@General_Belu - 02.12.2024 18:04

Remember that because of this war, the British at lot of their front line troops on North America, which nearly had an immediate effect on the 100 days involving Waterloo.

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@sansman9093
@sansman9093 - 03.12.2024 02:20

Jesus loves you God bless

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@meee523
@meee523 - 03.12.2024 17:26

You should have brought up the Battle of Crysler's Farm, when british and canadian troops defeated the last series america invasion of upper Canada.

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@chazcouzens1456
@chazcouzens1456 - 04.12.2024 23:04

Bullshit

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@VernonWillis-n8o
@VernonWillis-n8o - 06.12.2024 16:29

The New England states really were not all that covert about their trade with the British in Canada or their treasonous behavior in general. Also, the Federalist Party was already damaged beyond repair by late 1814. The Hartford Convention was just the last nail in their coffin. Threatening to break up the country in wartime was a bridge too far. To make it worse, the Federalist "emissaries" or "ambassadors" or whatever they were calling themselves arrived in Washington with their demands at almost the same time that people learned of Jackson's victory at New Orleans and that a peace treaty had been signed.
So the Federalists wound up looking not just treasonous but also silly.

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@xMetalhead2000
@xMetalhead2000 - 07.12.2024 07:37

The War Everyone Won (except the natives)

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@number2and3
@number2and3 - 10.12.2024 03:13

A little side history I'll chime in here because I know it for little reason and its somewhat relevant:

The Duke of Wellington's brother-in-law, Lieutenant General Sir Edward Pakenham, commanded the British forces at New Orleans and was killed during the battle. General Pakenham, a veteran officer, died at 36. He held temporary command of Thomas Picton's division and, during the Battle of Salamanca, led the division in a famous charge on the over-extended French left wing of Marshal Marmont's army in the one-sided victory. Many of the 8,000 British troops under his command were veterans who had been shipped to America just weeks after the Battle of Toulouse and Napoleon's abdication. Some of the same men who perished at New Orleans had defeated Masséna and Soult at battles such as Bussaco, Salamanca, Vitoria, and the Pyrenees.

The campaign's initial planning was carried out by Major General John Keane and Vice Admiral Sir Alexander Cochrane (not the famous naval officer Thomas Cochrane). Their planning was pretty bad despite the initial British advantage in numbers, experience, training, and equipment. This is why Wellington was personally outraged with Cochrane when hearing of Packenham's death, as Packenham arrived only a few weeks before the battle while in full command (this was a constant issue with the British army).

Jackson's defense was exceptionally well executed. His forces included veterans from the Creek War, who while veterans had experienced nothing comparable to what the British regulars he faced. Jackson enlisted pirates, African Americans (both free and enslaved), Native Americans, and even the elderly and young, having declared martial law to prevent the city’s surrender. His resourcefulness was extraordinary.

Jackson had also won several skirmishes leading up to the battle; he very much had the British frustrated before the battle.

Such a one-sided loss for veteran British troops was rare, especially considering this was shortly before the Anglo-Dutch-Prussian victory at Waterloo under Wellington (although many land expeditions failed, they usually did not have such a bloody defeat). Although the battle involved fewer than 15,000 men overall—small compared to the massive battles of the Napoleonic Wars—it remains a fascinating and significant event in military history, in my opinion.

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@ShleepySchlub
@ShleepySchlub - 12.12.2024 07:55

People like to bring up good points of who won but there was no deciding victor as it all just comes down to preference and what you view as more important to victory.

Now before any of you British Loyalists bring up the argument of burning down our capital

1. It was smaller than a small town so you basically just burnt down a shed
2. We burnt down Canada's somewhat of a capital before you burnt ours down.
Basically this means we both had capitals that were turned to ash meaning neither side won going off of the capital logic.

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@jessetorres8738
@jessetorres8738 - 12.12.2024 15:33

Thanks to Animaniacs I will forever remember this line: "James Madison never had a son, & he fought in The War Of 1812."

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@Jasonsoloka2024
@Jasonsoloka2024 - 17.12.2024 15:57

French and indian war 2 electric boogaloo

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@Myrtlecrack
@Myrtlecrack - 19.12.2024 20:51

The level of revisionist history in Canada concerning the War of 1812 is quite shocking. To this day, many Canadians still think it was always the United States goal to conquer Canada.

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@V1nce_man
@V1nce_man - 20.12.2024 07:46

I’m late but America won. They got payed, nothing changed, sailors weren’t abducted anymore. The invasion of Canada was a failure, the invasion of America was a failure, the capital wasn’t held by the British, it was rebuilt. America won. End of story.

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@CONSTANTINEXI63
@CONSTANTINEXI63 - 20.12.2024 10:44

I'm sorry, but you are wrong, the British Empire clearly won, achieving all it's goals ( though not it's side goal of creating a native nation in North America), and the americans achieved none

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