Trieste: Where the Cold War Almost Went Hot

Sounds like that Italians got fucked over.

Nel 1970 - in occasione della visita ufficiale di Tito in Italia - erano state presentate delle interpellanze parlamentari da parte del deputato democristiano Giacomo Bologna e di altri deputati missini, alle quali era stato risposto che in tale occasione non si sarebbe parlato di questioni confinarie. Di fronte alle voci secondo le quali Italia e Jugoslavia stavano intrattenendo delle trattative sui confini, analoghe interpellanze furono presentate nel febbraio del 1975 dai deputati democristiani - nonché esuli istriani - Paolo Barbi e Giacomo Bologna. Il governo non ammise né smentì i negoziati, ma ricordò che dopo il 1954 gli Alleati non avrebbero dato appoggio a rivendicazioni «su territori posti sotto amministrazione o sovranità dell'altro paese».

In 1970 - on the occasion of Tito's official visit to Italy - parliamentary interpellations were presented by the Christian Democrat deputy Giacomo Bologna and other deputies from Missini, who were replied that on that occasion there would be no discussion of border questions. Faced with rumors according to which Italy and Yugoslavia are second in negotiations on the borders, similar interpellations were presented in February 1975 by the Christian Democrat deputies - as well as Istrian exiles - Paolo Barbi and Giacomo Bologna. The government did not admit or deny the negotiations, but remembered that after 1554 the Allies would not support claims "about places under the administration of the other country or sovereignty of the other country."

the Italians were never the majority in any of those territories, and the Venetians have, for hundreds of years, attempted to assimilate the Slavs who've formed the majority population, so spare us from the pity stories, some of us have read history, and these transgressions that you're referring to were a response to decades of Italicization and anti-Slavic violence aimed at Croats and Slovenes in Eastern Italy, and the aforementioned territories which culminated in WW2 in the form of several concentration camps established by the Italians, in which tens of thousands of Croats and Slovenes perished. The number of Italians killed in Yugoslav Partisan reprisals is substantially lower than the number of Croats and Slovenes who were killed by the Italian army during the invasion and occupation of Yugoslavia. There is nothing more detestable and immoral than a genocidal invader assuming the role of the victim just because he was defeated and subjected to military reciprocity. We both know that Fascist Italy would've exterminated all Slavs on the Eastern Adriatic Coast if it had won. Great Britain and the USA, with the approval of the Soviet Union, have reversed Yugoslavia's conquest of all of Southern Austria and most of Eastern Italy in 1948.

Yugoslavia, unlike Italy, was ever on the right side of history, and never championed fascist and genocidal ideologies, and pseudoscience and racialism, so accusations of revisionism aimed at us are categorically ironic. Fascist Italy was the genocidal aggressor and invader, history is very clear on the matter. Most of Istria was conquered by Yugoslavia, incidentally, just like all of Southern Austria, but these conquests were revoked by the Western powers, with the approval of the Soviet Union, this is what led to the definite split between Tito and Stalin. Furthermore, the Slavs conquered and colonized the near totality of Dalmatia and Istria, the process being reversed by the aforementioned, Venetian-stipulated Italicization. The Italicization of Slovenes and Croats is historically indisputable, and the primary well of "Italians" on the Slavic side of the Adriatic Sea.

Nothing about the ONU resolution of 2015 that recognize the existance of the Free Territory of Trieste.
Why?
Is this "Propaganda"?

Trieste itself had indeed Italian majority but most of the surounding areas were ethnicly 90% Slovene. If you look at the names of other settlements its clearly seen that even in Italian is just italianized version of Slovenian name. If not for persecution under Mussolini which forced thousands of ethnic Slovenes to escape whole region would be clearly majority Slovene. Thats why many Slovenes still consider Trieste, Gorizia and so on as stolen land. After all decision to give it to Italy was strictly political since Yugoslavia was socialist country and allies were afraid that it would allied itself with USSR

Wait a second, as a half German (with namesake from trieste) and half Italian. Starting the history with the "bad fascists initiated anti German policies" ignores the fact that the previous ruling elite were Germans with anti Italian policies. Seriously im not even making it a moral thing either way, thats just how the great game was played back then.

"socialist" bloc?

Triestine-American here, there is still a pretty strong desire for many Triestines wanting independence and to have self governance. Great overview of the history

My maternal grandfather was posted to Trieste as part of his National Service and as a Royal Engineers corporal. He was having coffee in a cafe one day when a car sped up and a grenade was thrown at his table. It bounced off the table and behind a water butt of some kind which muffled the explosion and there were no fatalities. Gramps reportedly decided not to finish his coffee - but still paid the tab.

Gramps passed away a few years ago, and I take his National Service medal - proudly displaying his ‘Trieste’ bar- to the National Memorial Arboretum in the UK each year to remember all those who didn’t come back as part of Ride To The Wall.

Gen.Freyburgh (NZ)directed the confrontation .There is a photo of him sending a tank forward within a few metres of Tito's troops,I think both sides didn't want blood shed.

Why has my comment been removed. Its truths is it why.

trst je naš

you have to cover the horrendous yugoslav communist crime against Italians: the foibe ethnic cleansing. Tito killed thousands of local Istrian Italian to slavify that territory.

Name is Trst Trst!

"Zona A, zona B bit će naše obadvje" (Zone A and Zone B will be both ours) - rhymes from that time :) learned long time ago from my grandma.

Very interesting video

My mother was 5 when this happened.
She came to the USA when she was 19.
I have a NAZI fork that she gave me.

FOR THE BELLBUTTONIA!!

Does anyone know the song that plays at the end?

Trieste ❤

And all honesty I think it should be an independent city states like it used to be so that we would shut up and the Italians would shut up because who is fighting over a port, if everyone is using it. FREE THE FREE TERRITORY!

Trieste, Caporetto, Gorizia, Istria e Dalmazia nè Slovenia né Croazia
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Trieste, Gorizia, Caporetto Istria e Dalmazia rightful Italian 🇮🇹

Trieste, Gorizia, Caporetto, Istria e Dalmazia are 🇮🇹, even stones speak Italian there!

Trst je naš

Trieste should belong to Slovenia as compensation.

My grandfather fought in the 5 Div armored, and was stuck in Trieste as WW2 wound down, because he spoke Italian, Croatian, German, and Hungarian. He was used as an interpreter. He tried to reach his mother's family in Croatia, but they had died before he coukd get them food.

Trst je naš gorica pa še bo!

its called trst and not trieste

Trst je naš!

Trst je naš!

My Uncle was was there with the first NZ troops in WW2, some tense standoffs he said guns raised.

TRST JE NAŠ🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮

Trst je naš

Trust, 1200 BC was established by Ancient Veneti who had their capital in Vindobona, present day Vienna and who pushed out the Illyrians. They were not Latin and Latins only came to Trieste in 1920 when President Woodrow Wilson gave Trieste to Italy. Before that we had never seen dark and short people in Trieste before.

Great video ! Greetings from the beautiful Trieste ❤

Dutch guy watched this in Trieste today. Thank you, much appreciated.

The sound made by the letter R in English is difficult for foreigners. Similarly, most native English speakers cannot pronounce the rolling R in Italian or French. My advice is don't try. You do get points for having the eh at the end of Trieste.

Ridiculous men: 5.000 battles of Verdun and Somme.

I am literally a child of the Cold War and Trieste, father a British soldier and mother a local Italian.

Trst is Slovenian btw

Trst, where the Croatian 'r' is a vowel.

Is there still a night bus from Trst to Dubrovnik?

Wish you would pronounce things properly. That aside...

Good foundation of the story. So much more to be said about my home city and what the impact was of that chaos in the late 40s. Italy taking over was not something that many favored and led to mass departures from the city - including by my grandparents who came to Australia. This is definitely an interesting part of the world - one that has many tales to tell.

It's Trst. No vowels, please. (My sympathies lie with the land of my grandparents.)