J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 3 with Buddhist Scholars - Does free will exist?

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Right understanding is devoid of the past

WR as a spokesperson for the Buddhist religion and all I heard was "blah, blah, blah..." (A lot of useless, meaningless, words.) He came to teach and not to learn. Nothing to learn.

They're all saying the same thing but on a different scale of it..

Jk talks about 100% (which himself has not attained)
They talk about 95%


The truth indeed is instantaneous... It has no zigzag.

100% is a complete void were nothing can be explained.. And that's where God lies.

Every teaching is originally from the Buddha.

action without self thought is no choice no desire is unconditional LOVE that is great

Some things are conditioned, and others are not. Concepts exist by comparison; it is said that in a universe where everything is blue the concept of blue would not exist. The cause-and-effect relationship is perceptible because the unconditioned also exists, for example emptiness or vacuity is not the result of a cause, it is not an effect, a product, and its existence allows us to see determinism, in the same way that the silence between each musical note allows us to perceive the melody. The actions which arise from the vision of the undetermined are free actions because the undetermined has no past, it is not the result of a cause which precedes it.

You will never come into your own long as you follow!

Identifying an external object or an internal feeling or sensation by a name (word) is the basis or starting point of recording. Is that correct?

If free will exists, why did Jiddu Krishnamurti have headaches?

i see the importance of dr bohm, it so sad to see that even budhhist scolar cant even admit the dumbness. so disappointing… there is nothing wrong to accept it. its the art of dying.

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一把純粹的真理之火.....好美

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Yes, please do more. please 🙂

This is probably my favorite Krishnamurti talk, as far as the fluidity and cooperation in the questioning is concerned. Most of the questions posited are very poignant and flow well into one another with very little conflict or disruption.

Grazie

The guests are such wankers. Except Bohm, of course.

Perhaps out of compassion or otherwise, Krishnamurti DESIRED that people understood what he was saying, did he not?

have you noticed how K interrupts another talking? in this there is the danger of the speaker is more important than the listener.

So it belongs to the past? He said, and all the poor monks dreams went out of the window😂😂

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È un genio Krisnamurti libero nel senso autentico ❤

An aspect regarding the "recording - memory - thoughts" behaviour is that our social construct has evolved based on linguistic communication, and one tends to use linguistic thoughts to communicate, which tends to need the ego as chief of operation. Its like jiddu has to tap into the ego levels in order to communicate in such a way that we understand. So, silence and observation without judgment would bring back those qualities of consciousness needed to transcend. Also, one can use psychedelics to have a taste of what an enlighten consciousness can be like.

Respectfully, the woman doesn’t belong in this discussion. She’s there simply to impress - stuck in knowledge and imitation.

Mary Lutyens and/or Laura Huxley would’ve been a much better woman for the discussion

I'm so saddened that free will doesn't exist

Obrigado por compartilhar e obrigado por esse espaço ...

なぜそもそも選択の必要性があるのか？
これはとても重要な問いだと思いました

Indebted to Krishnamurti foundation
For providing with all our answera

What I really appreciate in this and many other K discussions is how respectful yet incisive all the participants are. It is clear that K greatly disagrees with the scholars with their insistence on comparing him to other writings before him. Nonetheless because they are truly interested in a mature intellectual "show and tell," they really want to know how K's philosophy compares to their knowledge of traditional Buddhist scriptures.

The pursuit of pleasure is pain

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Dr. Rahula is very clever guy 😅😅

I used to go to brockwood park to listen Krishna murty as we all are a member of the theosophical society & everyday in my prayer I pray to Krishna murty also madamblavetsky & Dr anibesant

Profound profound profound, extraordinary

All I learned from this was the beautiful ladies in the background 😍

The will is ego. But "free will" is a philosophical concept that has nothing to do with desire. It has to do with whether we're puppets or not, a semantic issue. In a deterministic universe, there is no free will. In a non-deterministic universe (as I believe we're in), there is, regardless of the metaphysical way of thinking about "will". When we talk about "free will", we cannot separate "free" and "will". It is one phrase that means a specific thing which is not the same as will/desire.

Rahula: "if you have insight there is no exception, all your actions are without motive." That is freedom.

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