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David Doyle just released another of his Legends of Warfare series on the 231, 232, 233, 234, and 263 both 6- and 8-rad versions. Plenty of excellent photos as is true of all of his books. I have a kit of each of these vehicles. The Puma is definitely the crowd favorite.
Re: the 233 that was meant as an artillery support vehicle for the recon battalions to help when they came up against obstacles such as small AT bunkers, once it became harder for the Luftwaffe to provide air support against those types of road blocks. The 231/232 didn't carry a big enough gun to bust concrete so the 233 would come toss a round in to clear out the nest. They were also effective as AT themselves when using AP rounds for the 7.5cm StuK L/24 gun the 233 mounted.
To bad the best things go to the wrong side
ОтветитьToo bad the US is obstinate as to not recognize the advantages of true wheeled armored vehicles. The HUMVEE is just a horrible idea since it is not a good replacement for the Jeep, and is not a good replacement for a armored vehicle. Exactly what does the HUMVEE do well?
ОтветитьThe sd.kfz.'s 234 has 2 drivers
ОтветитьThe AMX 10 is the spiritual descendant of the Puma. As a kid I built models of the Puma and the 232. Sitting on my shelves still. Most interesting is that they carry licence plates. I remember applying the tiny sticker.
ОтветитьThe 234/3 wasn’t known as the Stummel (Stump), that was the name given to the SdKfz 251 half track with the 7.5cm L/24, and that gun wasn’t for anti tank purposes like you said the SdKfz 233 was, it was a low velocity howitzer for firing HE shells at bunkers, infantry, and other hard targets.
ОтветитьMany flaws in the Information. But nice Video footage
ОтветитьHe missed the spw 222 and spw 221 with the 20mil and panzerbüchse 41 respectively🤔
ОтветитьWhat a great video. I have not seen a lot of that footage, and I've always found the German heavy AC fascinating. Thank you.
ОтветитьNot only were there never enough of them like everything else in the german army, they looked great.
ОтветитьPuma have 4 crew members, comander was also radio operator
ОтветитьAnd the US was stuck with the Greyhound and a 37mm gun. Politics and a bit of logistics kept us stuck with designs that were inferior. We could have easily copied these units, the Panzer IV, and even the T34/85. We could have modeled the M10 after the Stug with a turret.
My thoughts and arm chair historian changes to history. I'm sure the purists will ambush. lol
Heavy Armored Cars exist
.50 cal "brrrrrrrrrrrrrt"
Heavy Armored Cars does not exist
Most NATO countries and the US military are now re-introducing 8 wheeled recce and combat armoured vehicles.
ОтветитьLove how in Warthunder the German Scout cars and Scount Tanks can't scout.
Ответитьwell, i am a fan of the SdKfz 247, especially the 4 wheels variant, it just looks good to me.
ОтветитьImagine if Puma had 75 mm gun with a turret
ОтветитьIt’s z not zed
ОтветитьThe Speed Memes live on in warthunder
ОтветитьThe 234/1 has a mg 42 not a mg 34
ОтветитьSCHWERER PANZERSPÄHWAGEN SIEBEN KOMME FÜNF ZENTIMETER SONDERKRAFTFAHRZEUG ZWEIHUNDERTVIERUNDDREISSIG VIER PANZERRABWEHRKANONENWAGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ОтветитьPuma was such a beautiful weapon.Wanted to build 1?
ОтветитьThjank you for the video!
ОтветитьWith the rest of the world still retaining a lot of Victorian aesthetics and mannerisms in the 1940s, the Germans were building vehicles that look like they were meant for use on the Moon and Mars, with names that sound like computer chipsets.
ОтветитьThe 234 had no equals until the late 50's when the BTR appeared (and even so, the original BTR was hampered by its pathetic propulsion system using two gas engines). In WWII there was no comparable Allied product.
Note: the engine was the powerful aircooled Tatra Diesel - again, nothing comparable appeared until the 50's.
What was the cage used for on top of the armored cars?
ОтветитьPuma
ОтветитьThis channel is a dumpster fire when it comes to thorough research on facts.
Every single video has false information littered throughout.
There is no such thing as a “heavy armored car”.
ОтветитьPuma was excellent !
ОтветитьLot of inaccuracy on this crap, the short barrel, low pressure gun is NOT an AT gun, lol, but a bunker buster - it fires a LOW velocity HE shell, the opposite of an real AT gun - who use AP rounds and HIGH velocity.
Secondly, he have no clue these vehicles were very unreliable, ze germans ( unlike the russians, years ahead of them in tanks design) were unable to produce a diesel engine ( they wanted a diesel engine for them) and they beg the Czech for an engine - first one was a failure, second engine, a decent reliable one, was ready only at the end of the war, when was already too late...
I stop watching at half, obvious the author have no clue what he is blabbing about.
Driva, gunna, loada, radio operataa. Lol the accent
ОтветитьPewmah
Ответитьall of them
ОтветитьPuma👍
ОтветитьI always liked the 231 best.
ОтветитьIt’s literally the cyber truck lol
ОтветитьI served in the SADF where we had 'Ratel' as an infantry fighting vehicle also 8 wheeled,with different gun layouts from 20mm cannon, to a 75mm cannon and machine guns.
ОтветитьEs gab eine paar Fehler in dem Video, was die Fähigkeiten angeht, die diese Fahrzeuge besaßen und die Rollen, die sie erfüllten,
die in der Kommentarsektion von gebildeten Fans angemerkt wurden.
Nichts desto Trotz war dies ein gutes Video, welches unsere beeindruckenden Radfahrzeuge des zweiten Weltkriege gut darstellte.
If I were a German soldier, I would have wanted to serve on a Puma, with its speed and defensive capabilities.
ОтветитьThey should reintroduce them they look good
ОтветитьPuma the best!!
ОтветитьThanks for slow reading, i can understand everything! Best Regards from Papua
ОтветитьIf I was a German recon I'd probably pick the Puma - decent anti-armor capability with the 5cm gun and better crew protection than the open tops. One big advantage of these 8-wheeled vehicles was that they featured a driver position at both the front and rear - ideal for shoot-and-scoot because they could immediately accelerate backwards at the same speed as forwards.
ОтветитьThe German 8 wheelers are hands down some of the most badass-looking vehicles of WW2.
ОтветитьWhich version of German Heavy Armoured Car do you think was the best?
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