First Time REACTING to EPIC The Musical | Scylla x Mutiny x Thunder Bringer | REACTION

Song 5 of the Next Saga, you have to watch Neal's!

Fun fact for those who do not know Luke Holt who voices Zeus will randomly slip into his Zeus voice when hes streaming and playing Stardew Valley and other games

In Scylla Odysseus did not decide who dies - he told Eurylochus to light 6 torches. Basically he made Eurylochus choose who died, without letting him know that was what he was doing. That said, during Mutiny you said that Odysseus is 100% in the wrong. He's not. Its a lot more nuanced than that. He even mentioned that Eurylochus would have done exactly what he did, and Eurylochus did not deny it. Not only that, but on the island when Eurylochus fucked up the crew pretty much IMMEDIATELY go back to calling him captain. Them Mutinying there was understandable, but clearly no one else had the ability to lead the crew better than him.

Something hit me the other day like a ton of bricks, and I was reminded of it when you pointed out he sees Penelope, "the version that was presented to him by the Sirens." Sirens were known to sing men to their doom, luring them from their ship by showing them their hearts greatest desire. For Odysseus, he sees getting to his wife and being with her as what will make all this suffering bearable, being in her arms will take all the suffering away.

And while he loves and wants to see Telemachus, his wife has always come first

The thing abt the crew is they're supposed to be a representation of how ordinary humans who just struggle to live would react to the situations theyve been put in. On their end, they don't know wtf is going on in odysseus' head, so they get scared after deaths start happening when it's never happened during the trojan war ("I took 600 men to war and not one of them died there"), and then they dont trust him anymore bc all they've seen so far since the start of their voyage home was ody taking L after L. They're all basically feeling like desperate rats on a sinking ship. They hold on bc they think, "That's our captain and friend", but after Scylla is when they break. "We can't trust him anymore when we tried our best to trust him despite our mistakes and doubts". I think that's why Ody despite the betrayals still doesn't hate them, he understands where they're coming from and he still loves them, unfortunately he loves his family more. They're all just desperate to go home and have made dubious decision in the process, including Ody himself

I've heard a lot of people bash the crew for their decision to kill the cow, and it seems clear to me those people have never gone without food...

Now, to be clear, I myself have never been starving. I lead a privileged life, in a "first world" country. And because I am incredibly fortunate, I've never gone long without food. HOWEVER, I enjoy reading a lot of non-fiction, and I have read numerous grimly detailed accounts over the years about lost expeditions, remote plane crashes, and shipwrecks. Oftentimes, the narrative is penned by survivors or even the victims of starvation themselves, when journals and similar written accounts are found. Familiarize yourselves with the effects of hunger, TRUE hunger, before you judge these men.

I love your reactions. Is so good the emotional bond you put on it.

Lets all make a test, stay without eating for days or even weeks, put a plate of food on front o you, and tell someone to punch you if you eat it, people underestimate starvation

Yes🎉 love your reactions to epic

Next is "Legendary", "little wolf", "we'll be fine", "love in paradise" then "god games".

If they didn't light the torches, Scylla would have taken six men at random. Some of whom might have been rowers, in which case the ship would be slowed and she might have a chance to grab six more. Of course, Odysseus also made sure that he, personally, would not be one of the ones eaten, and tried to arrange it so that Eurylochus would be.

Please please NECESSARY INFO for Wisdom Saga!! I've seen too many reactors get confused at this point 😂😅 Next saga starts from the POV of Telemachus, Odysseus' SON!

Well, they are called Greek Tragedies for good reason.

Honestly though, this is probably the lowest point in the story.

I dont know how I've got "Damp Zeus", "Wet Hades" and "Dry Posidion" in one week from three different reactors but i am fucking howling 😂

Not a spoiler, just a clarification for next video some time has passed since Ody lost his crew, there is time jump (unfortunately not back in time james Cameron style). Not all of the animatics state this or how long its been.

It's important to note that for Eurylichus in the second half of Mutiny, he's given up for the most part. For him, the choice is between a painful death via starvation, or potentially incurring the wrath of some God. An easy choice to a starving man.

Small note that according to the official livestream animatics of Thunder Bringer, where they were all smited by Zeus while on their ship sailing away from the island, that the song ends with Odysseus falling and sinking into the water!

Can you please react to the ost : "Möbius" from Gundam Hathaway?
This OST is made by Sawano Hiroyuki, the same guy who composed many of Attack on Titan's best OSTs

I love that ost but even tho it has 2m views there are no reactions to it at all 😭 maybe most views are from japanese people since they love Gundam

I was crying too

Pls react to DEMON SLAYER SPECIAL EPISODES🗡️👹

Pls react to DEMON SLAYER KIMETSU ACADEMY SPECIAL EPISODES pls😊

I you like DEMON SLAYER then try DEMON SLAYER KIMETSU SPECIAL EPISODES ❤️

Btw would be cool if you watched the animatics for wisdom saga from the official livestream

Btw would be cool if you watched the animatics for wisdom saga from the official livestream

Well, the main reason Odysseus' isnt home yet is because he told the Cyclops his name
Poseidoon would not have sent that storm, or killed 500+ of his men, & he wouldnt be "on the run from Poseidon" (and thus need sneaky paths like Scylla's lair) if he had not revealed his name

Death toll:
In Survive, 12 men were killed by the Cyclop.
In Ruthlessness 545 men were killed by Poseidon.
In Circe saga, Elpenor died when ge got drunk and fell off the roof.
In Scylla, 6 men were killed by Scylla (through Odysseus' sacrificing them).
And in Thunder Bringer, the rest, 36 men, were killed by Zeus (also by Odysseus' choice).

But the dodo bird and the cliff joke made me laugh.

What I like about EPIC, is that you can totally understand both points of view. Odysseus was in a tight spot. If he told his men that going through Scylla would sacrifice six men... would they give up? where they would go? So I can understand not saying anything. It's not moral, it's not correct, but he is so desperate to get back home that he put his goal before his men, as wrong at it is. For Eurylochus is comprensible to be pissed off and start a mutiny, Odysseus told him to light up six torches, making him choose without knowing who would die. Then tired and starved they reach an island and decide that they have to eat, damn the consequences.

The thing is... both made errors until this point. Odysseus for doxing himself, and then Eurylochus doubting his captain in front of the crew, not trusting him and opening the wind bag when we were so close to home, betraying his trust. We could say... they are just a man?

Zeus is the big big man, yes. He is king of the god, and such, but he is also god of judgement. So, since they went against a god (Helios, former god of the sun before apollo, who threatened to take out the sun into the underworld if the killer of his cattle was not punished) he is whom comes to judge, despite his status. Plus, him being king and odysseus being king, much like the first song with the infant, he has a thing about wanting to make odysseus chose himself, the king, over anyone else. Hence his choice again here.

Ah, yes, the unstoppable duo:
Wet Hades and Dry Poseidon 😂😂

In the Odyssey, Odysseus was given two ways to get home. One way was through the lair of Scylla, and Scylla has a cost. He had to sacrifice a man for each of Scylla's heads, or all of them would die. The other way to get home would be to go through Charybdis which would also kill his entire crew. Ody really had no choice, it was either sacrifice the 6 men, let everyone die, or just... Stop trying to go home. So I don't really agree with the "Odysseus is in the wrong" in this case honestly. Technically one could argue that all of this happened because of Eurylochus.

Yes, ody had to sacrifice 6 men otherwise they would have all died. Scylla is basically blind but can sorta sense the light front eh torches which gave her targets to follow

Also up until that point ody has done everything he can to ensure the survival of his crew to the best of his abilities. It might have been his choice to let the cyclops live but pretty much every other obstacle in their way was caused by his crew. Who opened the bag bringing them straight to Poseidon? Whose idea was it to run at Cierce? Whose idea was it to start a mutiny and kill the cow? ery. Arguably he caused more deaths than anyone here, it’s no wonder why Ody would grow tired.

i LOVE your reflection of 'everything he did is the same call i would make', makes me think the point is how easy it is for a man to become a monster.

“Stay away from the cliff” Oof

E-man should have begged for his life to be taken. After all if you have all the power you take all blame. Kill count- e-man: 585, ody: 6, Mr forgotten: 1, cyclops: ~7

Brilliant reaction as always. Its always amazing to see how you react and feel with each new song. Of the people I've watched react to Scylla you are one of the few who picked up on the 6 sacrifices so quickly. I also kept having myself reacting to your comments saying just wait till the next song/line hahaha. I can't wait to see how you feel about the next Saga.
A little side note btw; in the official animatic of Thunder Bringer Odysseus and his crew were on the ship when Zeus shows up and does his thing. So when it ends Ody has fallen into the sea with his ship destroyed and slowly sinks down as the animatic ends. I mention this because of a future song.

Eurylochus by the end of Mutiny basically admits he's suicidal. He see's his options as either all of the men slowly rotting away, or taking a risk and getting struck down quicker.

I just love your reactions! So raw and on point every time! I can't wait for you to see the rest. Hope you'll enjoy it!

I recommend Duvetbox's version of Legendary and Little Wolf

"But scyla has a cost"

I see you on the brink of death
I see you draw your final breath
I see a man who gets to make it home alive...
but it's no longer you

Yo! I would personally recommend you watch the first three songs of the next saga in a row, as they all follow the same story back to back.

Remember wet Hades? Get ready now for... dry Poseidon

one of my favorite reactors. Taking the story seriously, actually processing whats happening (mostly)... Love how you understood the crews perspective of Scylla/Mutiny. Also, when they killed the cows Eury says they're starving and he's given up on making it home- they still might not have all made it all the way to Ithaca.

Fun fact: You are actually the second person bring up the idea of time travel in the context of the Odessey and now I REALLY wanna write that story