GREG DOUCETTE is RIGHT?... (Maingaining Science Explained)

That's fantastic. Recomposition is real. Thanks, Coach Wolf.

So at this point... would maintaining be better than cutting? But I suppose it depends on how quickly an individual wants to lose body fat or if they're like high body fat, I presume.

I'm not much of a fan of traditional "bulking-cutting" wisdom. I'd rather slowly gain 10 pounds (near-maintenance, small surplus) over a year than rapidly gain 20 (big surplus) then rapidly lose 10 (deficit) over two 6-month bulking-cutting phases.

You can definitely reach a point of limited returns, in terms of surplus magnitude vs lean mass gains. We can't "force-feed" lean mass gains in a linear fashion in a surplus, and a deficit obviously isn't optimal for lean mass gains.

It's true, but not the reality for most. The margin for error is much smaller at maintenance than when on a bulk.

This is great news for people who just want to settle in to a routine training / eating regimine without worrying about constantly adjusting their lives to surplus this month, deficit next.

Im ok with "maingaining" my way from 20% to 15% over a year, especially if its easier to program and I know Im not being hugely "sub optimal" (maybe just a little) along the way.

Algorithm. Mark Rippetoe told me I need two things to improve my lifts: 1) more food 2) sets of fahve. He also told me his favorite song is "I Got Fahve On it" by Luniz.

Thanks for this content, king. Do you think modest hypertrophy gains are possible in a slight deficit for someone with north of 22%ish bodyfat and solid training (eg your programs!)

Just to put a ball park figure on it, do trained lifters see 80% of the hypertrophy they'd get if they bulked?

Bulking is safe gains miss a meal still safe

I don't need papers for it, that's how I always gained muscles lol

Doucette really is definitely right I think when cutting time is considered. Never going to bulk again without a very good reason. Gonna see what I can do in year three on maintenance.

I think if most people aimed to eat at maintenance, they would be in a slight surplus accidentally and it would be a successful lean bulk. Even if you undereat, you wont be in such a deficit that muscle building would halt

Eye opening

Thank Milo, so if I stay in maintenance, what weight change should I expect in order to track muscle growth?

Just wondering how this works. How new tissue is created if you are in maintenance?

Dr wolf, youre jacked as shit man, are you natty?

Bulking/cutting videos MUST begin to separate lean people vs overweight people (are you listening Dr. Mike).

nah bro this, like many of your takes is based on very flawed studies

How bout 200-300 calorie surplus? Is that considered as lean bulking?

the debate comes from targeted audiences. I've seen a lot of fitness influencers say that maingaining is a myth, these people tend to be skinnier and leaner and started out skinnyfat. The people that Greg tends to coach, since he charges a lot for it, are likely older and fatter, in which case all they need to do is stop eating and slim down. One audience needs to gain mass, the other already has the mass, they just need to turn it into lean mass.

If you're fat or previously fat, it is exponentially much harder to actively lose weight than it is to maintain, on top of that you are likely more prone to binging and cheating as well, which will probably make up the difference anyway.

What is the name of the background song?

As someone is 61 kg at 5'11 , imma eat in a small surplus everyday (200 to 300 calories)

😂 a Study victim....try to get new Muscle without bulking as a natty WHO Trains over 5 years good luck

It’s just more difficult to make the gains in a slight surplus or maintenance as you have to be more dialed in on what you consume and your macros.

However for your average person unwilling to count macros or calories, it is much easier in the moment to bulk, get all the necessary macros, gain mass and let future you worry about the consequences of having to diet down again if you want to be leaner.

It’s kind of a short term vs long term situation and most of us choose short term.

Maingaining science keeping you small as hell

You can’t eat calories 🤦🏼‍♂️

Dr Mike just published a video on the error of bulking too little 😅

Follow this advice. And that’s why you’re all small.

I just eat until i stop being hungry

Gains on OMAD?

Bro is maingain like literally maintain that fat or the percentage
Like if I'm 15%fat and i want to maingain
I built 15 pounds of muscle and gained weight to keep the same 15% percentage of fat?

I do this all the time and it works.. I always gain muscle, get leaner/more stredded while my weight stays roughly the same, or I might gain a small bit. I notice once I get too lean, I stop getting stronger/don't gain muscle. The trick then is to bulk up, then maintain once you reach a certain body fat percentage. It's by far the healthiest, safest and most logical way to train

Most people say to bulk to make gains, but most of those people are perpetually fat

This is fucking dumb,l if you want to grow as slow as fucking possible do this lol

Stop spreading misinformation you'll get more gains 6 months of bulking than 2-3 years of "maingaining"

coach greg is more right than last time

You can't be 200lbs and jacked if you eat like a 165 pounder. It's called maintenance for a reason. Because you stay the same size.

This is a weird topic for me because I was definitely underrating before I started the gym. And I didn’t notice real change until I started eating a ton. I now make sure to get a surplus every day. It seems like a lot of food for me but I think I just never ate enough before this. I’m not exactly sure where maintenance is for me

If Russia and China blew up pagers in Ukraine, we would say its part of the war, not terrorism. I really feel that same bias Krystal accuses people of in terms of dehumanizing arabs, is the same bias she has towards Israelis.

What about at 15 percent bodyf fat maingaing will i lose body fat n gain muscle ?

This is nice to hear

The thing is, you will grow muscle in the beginning without being in a surplus. When you get to intermediate you need a small surplus to grow bigger. Nobody ever maintained their way to a 315lbs bench as a natural

How much protein should you eat at maintenance? Is 0.8 per lb enough

This only works when using peds

Gurg doucheshitte SUCKS!!