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almost all of these safety and quality of life features are illegal or at best not advised in the US. You might slowdown and therefore upset a driver of a car.
ОтветитьI got a laugh on a Facebook discussion about a plan to extend a biking arterial along a new commuter rail line in the Montreal area in Canada when I said (as I have before) that I wished the Netherlands could conquer Canada and show us how to do things right. (After all, we helped liberate you 80 years ago; couldn't you return the favour? ;-)
ОтветитьDepending on the character of the side street this could even be improved upon with continuous sidewalks.
ОтветитьNOTE: All the car drivers started cycling when they where youngat some point so there is a good understanding also between cars and bikes.
ОтветитьA slight improvement could be made even still. Drawing arrows of traffic direction near the pedestrian crosswalk.
This would make it clear to pedestrians which way to look at which sections of crossings.
Natives wouldn't need it, but it definitely would only make it more clear to children get used to things as well as to foreigners who come from countries that drive on the opposite side.
Best part is, this only costs a bit of paint.
what's really a convincing point for skeptics, is the middle fat area only widens at the intersection, so it's not like you need a giant-width divider for the entire length of the road, which would incur all kinds of objections about wasted space and inefficient traffic lanes.
And the widening occuring at the intersection means cars need to slow down enough to make the slight curvature, acting as a purely natural and 0 energy requiring design, unlike traffic lights.
And that slight natural curve prepares the driver for an even sharper full 90 degree turn, whether they're making that turn or going straight.
That slight natural curve also points the driver's slight line directly at the oncoming bike lane traffic, naturally making drivers more aware of bikes and pedestrians.
it's beautiful.
a design that is passive, and accomplishes so many things with cheap simple tweaks, like an aikido master.
look, ma! no traffic lights!
Ответитьthis design is as thing of beauty
ОтветитьThis is what the US is quite sorely missing. We need to build intersections like this over here.
ОтветитьDutch know how to build an intersection
Ответитьthis is pure dutch poetry
ОтветитьFantastic setup but what happens if somebody doesn’t conform to your way of thinking?
ОтветитьExcellent design, excellent video. Very convincing. Thanks!
ОтветитьOne, this intersection started with a very wide space so all these areas could be provided. Two, the Dutch don't spend all their money on weapons and killing people in other countries so can provide things to the people.
ОтветитьWhere do cyclists turn left into the 30km/h street from the main road?
ОтветитьI see issues implementing something like this in the US. It would work if: it was used in newly built towns with planned, slower than usual, streets, if the island areas were designed a little bigger, and bikes avoided them during rush hour or fewer people used cars. Please show what is done when the street needs to be dug up.
ОтветитьSo civilized! I saw a few mopeds and motorbikes in the bike lane, why are they doing that?
ОтветитьYou’re doing a great service showcasing this to... the world, basically. I’m Dutch but I’m living in London, and cycling here is much more of an undertaking. I’m hoping that the current lockdowns have allowed to more rapidly improve things here. There is a plan to do that, but we won’t see this level of sophistication here for a long time, if at all.
ОтветитьGreat job thanks 😊
ОтветитьWow, a govt that cares for its citizens. Seriously a rare sight. Our govt is selling out the forests and public spaces to businesses. As if economic growth is the only thing that matters now.
ОтветитьI call upon my government: Spent less for military but more for cycling infrastructure!
ОтветитьThe German solution would have been a lot of traffic lights. And a lot of waiting times that comes with traffic lights.
ОтветитьCity clean
ОтветитьI'm gonna dream this
ОтветитьWow the Dutch think of every possible outcome. Thinking of not just cyclists and pedestrians, but families with strollers and people in wheelchairs. Here in the US there’s ramps for wheelchairs but even those are difficult for people to use. They’re not level and harder for elderly people to use.
ОтветитьIf this was Chicago there would be bumper to bumper traffic and idiots would be driving in the bike lane to bypass the traffic. Well done Dutch!!!
ОтветитьBrillant
ОтветитьAqui no Brasil os motoristas de carro passam por cima dos ciclistas
ОтветитьLiving in Quebec we don't have traffic laws but merely traffic suggestions.
ОтветитьBicycle helmets would help. Looks Like Netherlands have many $5.00/heads. Helmets save lives.
ОтветитьThis makes too much sense. It would never make it in the US.
ОтветитьUK: Let's have another roundabout.
ОтветитьHere in Norway the waitingarea is allways(when there is such a cycleway constructed) to small for a car, so it block the cycleway . It is so irritating, we should do as the dutch!!
ОтветитьDon't pedestrians systematically get priority while crossing the main road ?
From the video it appears not, so I am wondering...
Please show this to the idiots in San Francisco MTA who plan so-called "upgrades" to infra yet hate to include "waiting areas" for cars and consider bikes last, if at all
ОтветитьIts behind de bartenbrug.
ОтветитьDutch open eyes and mind to learn right rules of code.
Ответить'Typical', I have never sern such an intersection in my life lol.
ОтветитьLocation: 51°41'29.1 N 5°19'03.3 E
ОтветитьBrilliant
ОтветитьThis is very close to a utopia!
ОтветитьExcellent video and blog post!
ОтветитьThis is so relaxing to watch, it's nothing out of the ordinary here in the Netherlands, but the fact that this seems special according to outsiders it makes you think how good we have it here. Great stuff.
ОтветитьHOLLAND MY DREAM
ОтветитьIt looks like it works, but still wondering about accident stats.
ОтветитьI do not think that I would like to change my country because of the cycling infrastructure, but each time when I ride my bike in the city where I live, I feel really sad and sometimes it is a big pain and effort to cycle. Respect for the cycling. Have been twice in Amsterdam and adore the cycling culture. That's something cool and it really does the magic!
ОтветитьMe watching cyclists crossing the streets: VERGA, NOJODA, LO VAN A MATAR.
Me after seeing nothing happened: oh, yeah, this video was recording in The Netherlands.
I wish we had this kind of space to implement the same infrastructure in Chicago. But, sadly, many main streets are too narrow to do this.
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