Air India I How Capt Sumeet Tried To Save Lives | "Boeing Will Not Hide Information" | Barkha Dutt

The take off run alone the length the plane covered till rotation tells you something wasn't right.

I think .Engine Side completely collapsed for this reason as incident .Air India flight may have fuel mixed without put clear So there by it fully flight System not work properly there even so A C and other functional systems not worked it may cause to helpless for the pilot to control the flight

Analysis of black box will give clear answers. I believe it will be done by Boeing in their premises. Will their analysis be biased to protect their business? Why it should take so long?

So boring u have become. U already announced captain a hero, while he was only doing his job. How many more discussions are u going to have before the black box is found out. Bye bye

And to out it on record, captain Steve right now is light years ahead of your
Content. Kindly pace up.

I think there is a broad consensus on the paradigm that Dual engine failure happened in seconds into the flight. Most probable causes may be fuel contamination, with water or debris or maintenance issues. The maintenance issue should be underscored here as it is a 11 year old plane and suffered inflight electrical issues in the previous flight from Delhi to Ahmedabad in the morning. The question is what was the rationale to fly this plane after the electrical issues they experienced in the previous flight? Where they resolved the issues before flying again? The organizational safety culture of Air India should be scrutinized. Are there any design flaws in the engine: General Electric GEnx-1B or Rolls-Royce Trent 1000. I don't think the problem goes away solely blaming Boeing. Engines should be the focus of investigation.

That plane lost avionics, neumatics, and hydraulics the moment it left the runway. That tells me that there was some type of destructive device on board that plane.

Could this had been a combination of two different things. One extreme weather phenomenon (change of wind direction, air pocket, lack of air pressure particles) Sever Engine performance degradation, and or computer performance issues that shut the engine off. Vapor lock in the fuel tanks, fuel pumps overheating (auto shut off) causing the engines to fail.

Barkha Ma'am..Thank you for following this story. I request you to follow it till it's conclusion. I can understand how difficult it is for Air India community of pilots and crew members. Thank you for doing some sane stories and not sensationalizing like others. The fallen captain Sumeet Sabharwal, FO and late crew members of AI-171 would be proud of you. ❤ We all are feeling sad due to the loss of lives.

On that day it seems it was too much hot ,47deg. Whether too much AC collapsed pick up or thrust.just like in car it happens

Hot, humid air can reduce engine performance and potentially lead to overheating and shut down.

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At least after this incident I have one understanding and that is - I'll be little patient when a flight I'm going to is delayed for some reason. Yesterday also I heard Captain Manmath Routray talking about how a pilot tries gard not to fly with even slight doubt. Everyone should have this understanding.

The problems likely occurred before take off. It took the whole runway to get off the ground. That's a massive warning signal right there. There were most likely errors made in the sequence of events leading up to the accident. An aircraft, especially a modern 787 should not need the entire runway to rotate and lift off unless something is wrong or misjudged. The accident chain started on the ground, not in the air. Such a long takeoff roll indicates fundamental errors in the sequence of events leading up to the accident, likely originating in the planning and preparation phase, making the subsequent in-flight difficulties almost inevitable. If everything was set and functioning correctly, the accident would likely not have occurred. Fundamentally, there was simply no margin for error by lifting off at the end of the runway.

Sad !

By lifting off at the absolute end of the runway, the aircraft had zero margin for error in terms of acceleration, climb, or obstacle clearance. This lack of margin is fundamentally unsafe and points to a critical pre-existing performance deficit. By rotating at or near the very end of the runway, they left themselves zero margin for; Engine underperformance, Unexpected dust ingestion, Gear retraction distraction or fault, Even the smallest pitch or speed error, Any surprise like wind shear or bird strike and a rafter of other aircraft faults. In aviation, this is called "using the runway as a crutch" where you burn the entire runway because you have no performance headroom left. But doing that means that any single failure after rotation could instantly tip you over the edge with no time, no height, and no space to correct.

These people are emotional as if they saw Captan in the cockpit ! They did not see what was in the cockpit! So nothing can be ruled out! Anything is possible!

The AHM system....how long does it take for the AHM to recognize a problem to when the problem is repaired on the plane? If electrical issues were occurring on the flight immediately prior and AHM works quickly, then this crash should not have happened (the plane would have been pulled from service - grounded).

Shouldn’t every airline inspect the plane before each flight considering the huge risk to human life. It’s not like a car when it stalls, we can call AAA even in the middle of highway! Where is Air India’s flight worthiness certificate before it took off?

Thank you for mentioning to mass public that airlines are the safest transportation, I knew this long back , a French man told me .

Thank you barka for inviting knowledgeable 3 guys, learned a lot . We need to educate people

Dusty, filthy runway choked the engines before takeoff. High heat, humidity and high fuel temperature didn't help.

Sashi Tharoor world tour is now history. Current obsession is Air India disaster. What is next and when? How without speculation one is supposed to know the blackbox data? Stop this lazy talk show.

The girl needs to stop interrupting peoples train of thoughts

I just feel that, if it would have a plane ground without any building they could have landed hard, yet evacuated everyone asap. As it hit the building it just blasted. Sad what happened

Maintenance is what I have been leaning toward

Stop calling him Paranjpaye! Been several shows now. Please call him Paranjpe.

STFU how do you know what the black box will reveal?//Waste of time

You're a fundamentalist fanatic. You, who know what happened? Are you psychic? They're still investigating, and you already know everything. The pilots didn't prevent anything, and if they did, I'll tell you they crashed right into a place full of young medical students. So, out of respect for the 300 people who died, SHUT UP.

Excellent stuff from panelists and from u, Barkha....

At this point, discussion on this issue has become repetitive and overly speculative. Unless there is any new information or preliminary report is available, i don't see any value in "experts" repeating same points again and again. There are lot of orher developments happening nationally and internationally. It's better to move on.....

Barkha Ji since last 11 years many things have been revealed. Question is what action is taken?? Who takes the responsibility?

To be fair, Steve never blamed the pilots. He only listed all that could have gone wrong..the possibilities..based on the initial visuals. Please listen to his talks again Barkha and I am certain you will agree.

Why where both engines at or near idle, That is the reason for the crash. No raw. No omph. She glided down, no stall ,no dive. The pilots still had full flight control apart from engine thrust. Landing gear retraction requires hydralic rams require hydralic valves require electric solenoids. Engines have control computers that take displacement of thrust lever and convert it into a signal that goes to the engine, those computers/ controlers require volts and amps ,Rat deploys for a lack of volts and amps. Something happened to the electrical power supply. To the engine thrust control system. My guess.

Transformation of Barkha bano. Nice to see u stop doing anti india campaign. Let see for how long. Being a mulli u will show ur true color someday

Need your Contact... Maam.. please.... Share

Mr.Augustine is very lucid and patient! For a complete novice like me, a lot of learning and understanding 👍

Thank you Barkha😊

OMG! This is crazy. When will we get any updates from the investigation team? It's been a week now since the accident and I see that the investigators from US (NTSB) and the engine maker arrived 2 or 3 days ago. And of course the Indian investigation team is already there. So what is holding them up in sharing some info about the accident?  

I can understand investigating the "why" will take time but at least tell us the "what".  For example, if both the engines did indeed fail, that is a fact that can be determined quickly from the black box and the cockpit voice recorder. Determining why they failed may take much longer.

If this happened in US, NTSB would be holding frequent press conferences and providing incremental updates to the public. Why isn't India public demanding this? None of the TV pundits seem to be asking this either. Frankly, it seems everyone is just happy simply waiting for weeks or months to hear about what happened.  

They should have been able to determine some of the basic "what" happened already by getting info from the black box and the cockpit voice recorder. For eg: they can tell us if the engines failed at anytime during takeoff or soon after. They can tell us if the flaps were set and if the RAT was deployed. They can tell us if there was an electrical system failure. These are basic facts (the "whats") which can be determined fairly quickly and shared with the public. Even if they don't know all the "whats" they can share these incrementally as they find out. The facts (or what) do not change over time.

Determining the "why" takes times - I get it. But give us something. This will put an end to the endless debates and speculations online regarding if the engines failed or if the RAT deployed or were the flaps set etc etc.

If they are unable to get any information from the black boxes due to damage etc, they should let us know. Provide more visibility please.

Once we know some of factual "what" happened from official sources, the online debates can move on to speculating about "why" these happened.

Air India LRRA incident
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The Air India LRRA incident refers to an event involving Air India Flight 171, which occurred in
2019. During this flight, the aircraft experienced an unexpected reduction in engine thrust while in the air, which was attributed to a malfunction in the Low Roll Rate Authority (LRRA) system.
Key Details of the Incident:
1. Flight Details: Air India Flight 171 was operating a domestic route when the incident occurred. The aircraft was a Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
2. Thrust Reduction: While in flight, the engines unexpectedly spooled down to idle, which posed a significant risk to the aircraft's safety and handling.
3. LRRA Malfunction: Investigations revealed that a faulty LRRA sensor was a contributing factor to the thrust reduction. The LRRA system is designed to monitor roll rates and intervene if excessive roll is detected, potentially reducing thrust to maintain control.
4. Crew Response: The flight crew managed the situation and took appropriate actions to stabilize the aircraft. They were able to safely land the aircraft without further incident.
5. Safety Implications: The incident raised concerns about the reliability of the LRRA system and highlighted the importance of thorough maintenance and checks of critical flight control systems.
6. Regulatory Actions: Following the incident, there were discussions regarding the need for improved monitoring and maintenance protocols for the LRRA and similar systems to ensure the safety and reliability of aircraft operations.
This incident underscored the importance of robust safety mechanisms in modern aircraft and the need for ongoing vigilance in maintenance practices to prevent similar occurrences in the future.

Actually after Air India 171 crash, instead of pilots the airplane design engineers should make videos and they should be invited for interviews by the media 😊

Social media is hard to handle 😮

Boeing needs to investigate this as well. There has been no other 787 crash in the history of the aircraft. After 14 years of flying without a crash, it sounds like a possible maintenance issue or just an unlucky situation that occurred. Pilots not at fault, Im sure they were caught completely off guard. Let the investigating entities do their job without speculation and conspiracy theories.

Fear is a very human emotion, and should be acknowledged. In the U.S., there are folks asking if they can reserve seat 11A !

She is getting herself in over her head ...back off Honey ...let the experts talk!!!!

Apparently Black Box is damage so realty will never be revealed