Lines & Apexes Explained

Great fun!

awesome video. Thank you!

Please do make this a whole series!

NICE VIDEO.......BRAZIL HERE........

It's always good to brush up on the basics. Hard techniques are cool and definitely help but the basics will carry you the furthest

Whole series would be nice!

Especially if you overlay one line over the other… (traditional apex vs late apex drone view please!)

Keep up the great work!

Thanks for sharing

Great content, thank you.

I love me some ape latexing.

Nice to see an updated video on this! Very well explained and much more beginner friendly. Soo weird not seeing Wyatt though 🫣

Loved the bit where you suddenly added another corner on the board 😂

Over ten years ago, before I did the TON Rally School, I saw a group of spectators on a bank at the end of a straight. I knew the road went left but not how much. I tried to do a power slide to impress the spectators (never a good idea) but ended up on the wrong side of the crown. We slid into an shallow ditch and rolled onto the roof. This was a valuable lesson. If you exit a corner on the wrong side of the crown, you might end up upside down in a ditch looking stupid.

very nice explanation can you guys give insights on how to get out of tight parking spots using the handbrake

Drew is really natural talking to a camera. He seems to be a natural teacher too. Ace work!

Can't wait to have the disposable income to go to your school!

Late Apex was something learned at a one-day rally driving course 40 years ago. You don't know what's around the corner, it could tighten up or there could be a tree down. Late Apex gives that margin of safety in addition to a quicker entry onto the straight. I am now an instructor at the BIR Performance Driving School. We refer to the Late Apex as the Safe Apex.

I always loved these instructional videos. Even if you know the info, a refresher never hurt

Maybe a silly question lol but if you went into a left with a late apex and then into another left you would then have a early apex, Is there a way of avoiding that or would purely be foreseeing the road through the notes and taking a line that puts you on the outside? Or what could you do?

I dont do rally but i really like to drive in mountain roads when i go to univercity. My best and safest route is to use a version between the late apex line and the traditional. Why is that ? well as he said i really don't know what its on the road, usually the side of the road is dirtier and even could have sharp objects from veahicle before me or dragged from the rain or just dirt and potholes. Also is much safer if there is a case that a car is coming ahead (if its a day) and its good to not go full. i always am ready to go back to my line just in case. At night is much safier because you can see the headlights from the cars behind the turn and know if a car is coming and the shadows on asphalt helps me decide if the side of the road is decent for me and my car capabilities. i prefer that way because i dont lose that much speed, dont have such a wear of the tires, keep my car at 3000rpm and its more fuel economy and go home faster. But you must know the road or at least drive it once or twice. (sorry for my english) GREAT VIDEOS <3

Drew awesome talks on camera ! Please make a video about placing car in a corner!

Sorry, you all may be experts but this video has some glaring errors. Mostly I take issue with the visuals. You have a "traditional" apex, which is actually a late apex where the driver straightens the car until they hit the outside of the road and then turns that final bit. Then you have an "early" apex where the driver decides to start on the inside of the road rather than the outside. Then you have a "late" apex, where the driver forgot to turn at all, and suddenly realizes they are about to just drive off the road before turning sharply 90 degrees. A simple search for racing lines or apex lines results in a better description of the lines than what is done here in this video.

The correct visuals should appear as such:
Traditional Apex has an entry and exit that are nearly symmetrical when bisected by the apex.
Early Apex has an elongated entry and a sharp corner exit.
Late Apex has a sharp corner entry with an elongated exit.

The information about WHY, is all correct however the visual description of the lines is misleading at best, if not just flat-out wrong. The signature of each racing line is the corner entry shape, the shape and speed dictate how the corner exit must be driven in order to safely remain on the road. The late apex naturally puts you on the inside of the corner exit, giving the largest margin of error, and is the easiest to modify mid-corner in order to adjust your line as the road shows itself. For that reason, it is also the preferred line to take when the road and or road conditions are unknown.

While this is more advanced than what this video is trying to be, I think it is worth noting that all lines have their place. If you can only see the corner entry then a traditional line on a "Left 3 Opens" pace note is typically going to have a corner exit closer to that of a late apex. A late apex entry on a "Right 3 into Right 3" will put you on the wrong side of the road to correctly take the second Right 3. On the same set of R3 corners, you could use the early apex line as a trail braking zone (assuming you start from the outside on corner entry,) which will set you up for a late apex on the second right 3.

Have you not got early and late apex the wrong way round,
You turn (apex) sooner on the Cree line making the exit longer,, this early apex
Blue line you are deep in the corner before turning ( later apexing)

I am a silent viewer for years. I am from gemany. Thank you guys so much for your clips. I like watchning them.

That was an excellent tutorial, thank you!

This was so useful! And it was explained in a way that even I understood! Thank you!

What is the best strategy when dealing with two turns that go in the same direction? Do you take a traditional apex line in the first one as to set yourself up for a late apex for the second? When you don't have a lot of distance for the next turn its rather hard to always set yourself up for a late apex line, when you just completed one from a turn in the same direction.

Good work!! Clearly student of wytt! You can really see wytt coming through by the end of the video

the over head was a great expository shot. thanks

It's better to go into a corner slow and come out fast than to go into a corner fast and come out dead.

I’m getting tripped up on the terminology used in the whiteboard, which makes me doubt my understanding of the lesson. The “early apex line” looks like it’s the latest and the “late apex line” looks like it’s the earliest. So what are “early” and “late” in reference to in this whiteboard example?

Thank you sir.

Early apex you change direction/turn late. Late apex you begin turning early. Ive always felt The names should be reversed. although i recognize this is the standard explanation for both.

Great info, said simply.

Great!

apex line depend whats the next line, curve

Thanks brother fir this amazing training

Excellent video Team O'Neil & Drew.

So complete the hard part of the corner in the known road, if nothing changes you have time to view ahead and get more exit speed to setup for what's next

cant you combine? traditional in to a early? it then becomes more of a driving skill situation?

Great video thanks

These are not really apexs in the traditional sense