J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1982 - Conv. 1 - How does one inquire into the source of all life?

Every time Asians argue with me about how perfect their religion is, and how the Westerners stole everything from India, etc, I will show this video to them and tell them, "first learn to listen to what others are saying, stop behaving like Pupul, and stop repeating what you learned from the Whatsapp university."

What a true GEM indeed! Too bad he is not here now. How heavenly it would have been to meet him in real life and have a discussion with him. Although Ihe did not initiate me as a student, he will always be my only Guru all my life.

Step out of it. This is so true. We do it all the time for so many things in our life, but not for some things. We find it hard to step out of something (preconditioning, attachment) and we conclude that it cannot be done because at some level we still think we derive something from that attachment. Our mind fools us into believing that it cannot be done.

It was very painful to watch Pupul not listening to some gems he was saying. Pupul utterly ruined this conversation by constantly talking, instead of making him say more. For 1 hour and 18 minutes, she said so many wrong things, in an effort to defend her position.....but at 1 hour 18 minutes, she really felt total defeat. She was more interested in showing her expertise (nonexistent) in the area of discussion. When K asked her, "did u listen to me?" she said yes, but she was constantly disagreeing with him. How is that listening? She is so silly in this conversation. She wants to win the debate. She said she listens to music that way and she asks, why does it not change me. His point was, when you listen to something and realize the truth, you change instantly. Silly thing she does not realize is that music is not the same, there is nothing like insight or truth in music. Dr, Bohm was the best.

She is not letting him talk. She is not listening to Him

Human mind can never uncover the origin.But we can keep criticising the other and religion as absurd. Is it so?

This must have been done by dr.bohm

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Genius among Novices obviously became a Novice in front of the Genius ...

Сижу вот, какаю и слушаю. И так спокойно становится.

I will lose my two brain cells if I listen to this conversation.

Questa è una straordinaria conversazione,di grande profondità e dolcezza tra le due persone❤

If we put aside enquiry then how do we uncover the origin? Can somebody explain?

"There is no enemy, the enemy is you" KJ.

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Tha art of talking about talking.

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Maybe we don't take totally responsibility, because we identifies with giving responsibility to someone or something else...
Which we gives authority or power....
Maybe we can't be totally responsible, because we don't mirrors uself in eachother....

This lady is so confusing. Constant interference and lack of clarity.

Gracias por subir este material 🙏

Krishnamurtis conversations with Bohm,Anderson and Pupulji is worth saving and listening again and again.And of course his biography written by Pupulji ❤and of course Brockwood Park 1984 Scientists Seminars

"It's in the air"!!!!

It is really funny that until Pupulji stopped talking so much and acting with a kind of assertiveness, but I felt more of an agression ( after all as she said in her understanding the two things are nearly similar ). And until she did it she could not understand a word of what Krishnaji was saying. For me personally two thrids of this conversation was very exhausting to listen, because it was not a conversation. Pupulji made it more of a fight. And at last at the end of conversation she quietened down and just listened without so much effort which she put into resisting what Krishnaji had said before and without sticking into her own ideals. In that moment when she stayed silent she was capable of listening and understanding the whole of the Krishnaji's notion or better called truth. He said so many times that you have to just listen, but it did not get to her. In other talks he said when you are attentive, capable of understanding the truth or seeing it, there is no effort at all and here it is an evidence.

Mulțumesc. Un dialog minunat, care inspiră. Mulțumesc Krishnamurti, mulțumesc pupuji, mulțumesc vouă 🙏

JK is making sense to me and I am not disciplined or diligently trained. Why? Because I am listening!

listened to you many times SIR and at last you did it.THANKS PUPUL THANKS DEAR K..

only THAT MIND WITH A PERCEPTION WHICH RESTS IN THE CREATIVE can get deep into this dialogue. Not easy to retain this state. Focussed seeing and hearing needed. mind and brain enter into unknown area. SIMPLY amazing .Salute u both.

Un dialogo non facile da seguire ...il modo pesante della signora non era propio invitante ...k.ha una enorme pazzienza e sensibilita ..il suo modo di essere e' un esempio ....GRAZIIIIIIE ❤ GRAZIIIIIIE ❤ GRAZIIIIIIE ❤

dear K and PUPUL JI enjoying every bit if it. and of course listening and in the same movement myself thanks

PUPUL JI is amazing she has the quality of bringing out the best . it does justice to the purpose of CONVERSATION

I love pupulji and ofcourse jk

Alot of disorder in this discussion I see

Listen

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 pupu ji common we are so near to ❤🎉😂😂😂

When person is dead then mind automatically become why we need quite mind why why it's just con-cept

David bohm and j.k dialogues are the best dialogues to understand his teachings.

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She could have enquired about K's extraordinary past and how could everyone achieve that.
That makes him different. The kind of mind he has is the result of practices which he doesn't prescribe to others

Attention means mutual respect for listening and seeing. It is experimental design for doubly subjected to the contradiction of facts, for e. g., I was able a bodied Hindu and by being widowed I am a seeker of order in my action non -intr usively without you being non superimposable dual entity ,when my mind didn't know what it is like searching my mind went elsewhere but between then and now, the experience of unreality of non-difference in a Relatable , unforeseen enquiry into my matrix foreign to my self and keep both and neither of non self in self and vice versa. I've been never minding of crucifies flung at me in the path of fellowship with omniscience.

The metal cauldron allegory is the uncomfortable reality check of investigating who really you are seeing relatable to non-self,for, e.x the food which is cooked for you in non living cauldrons that is conditioned by fire and not the real you. So, the existing reality is we live to eat and share it in a respectable attitude.

There is no method at all. Just quiet mind can understand, completely out of any bias, of any wishes. There is nothing to wish or want, only to wander.

The essence finally extracted.😀 Why J.K is so cautious in putting the words because of the immensity the total arguement contains..... If a mind totally understood this immensity then it is the dawn if unimind is coherent with brain and also may be dusk if both are incoherent.... Should cautiously meet this ...

so beautiful

Could we say it would be like fitting a computer into a human brain.

I'm sorry to say but, Pupulji was making questions by herself, then she was continously complexing her own questions, then she was trapped by her own questions, after K was simplifying and answering her questions, again Pupulji was simulating K's answers. And go on the cycle. So funny!!!