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Huh, my archon shard choices were an equilibrium, two duration, shields and energy all tauforged. Admittedly the blue ones are the two I'm not totally sure on.
ОтветитьArchon vitality is only worth using if you are not armor stripping (ie the gloom build) or if you are doing very high levels. Otherwise, its entirely unnecessary. With her new augment her slash grenades and artillery strips armor in a couple seconds or less, letting her turrets especially three shot base level steel path where the gloom build requires longer to kill due to enemy armor and waiting for heat procs to tick.
Augur mods is a no no, augur mod shield gain will override her shield satellite shield gate boost duration, which is at maximum 5 seconds with some shield mods, longer than any other warframe on their own with redirection equipped. So every time you cast an ability to shield gate, you're gonna immediately reset those i frames in favor of minimal i frame duration which is 0.3 seconds.
You sadly can't force pubs to not have brief respite though, that will always kill your 5 second i frames against your will lol.
Everyone says, "drop her 4! don't use her 4!", without any explanation on why. Just say you helmith it off because you don't know how to use it.
ОтветитьCan you show me that Wyrm build?
ОтветитьSad part for me ( LR 4 ) is that Now that Protea Prime exists I could stop playing now. She is everything I wanted and waited for.
ОтветитьI really wish they would make her 4 better. It's such a cool concept, and is thematically the core of her kit, but...no one ever uses it.
You can tell they didn't quite know what to do with it too. Since healing and resetting cooldowns is just not much of a thing in Warframe, they tried to make it into some kind of explosion nuke thing that has nothing to do with time travel? Wish it worked more like Tracer rewind or, barring that, I wish they purposefully gave her long CDs or something for it to interact with.
Tbh I like prime protea body 😢I just changed the head to her skin because it’s better
ОтветитьWhy all that range? hmmm i dont know
ОтветитьI imagine an augment for protea an augment for her dispensary to be mobile
ОтветитьYour only complaint about the fashion on your favorite frame is some arm sleeves? You got off lucky. Try having an enlarged bottom you can't get rid of.
With how much I am using dispensary in helminth the opposite is true that you can turn Protea into a helminth ability frame with using her passive and dispensary to upkeep it. Used this to maximum effect with Null Star during its heyday, still very usable today as well, to reach high KPS numbers in ESO with minimal effort.
This video missed a massive point which is using viral tempest on Protea. A full armor strip and viral stack without any weapons is possible within a couple seconds with viral tempest and 2 green shards, the armor strip alone is a bigger DPS boost to hard target enemies like steel path eximus units than you could ever hope to achieve with abilities like roar and eclipse. You also get viral stacks on everything so you don't have to build it on your weapons.
Also, Brozime showed a max range build but there is a solid argument to be made for max duration builds on Protea. I run 265% duration (before molt efficiency), 100% efficiency, 199% range, and 85% strength (before molt augmented, growing power, and zenurik strength boosts), once I get the molt efficiency boost then blaze artillery lasts for over 8 seconds compared to the build in this video with 5 seconds. The extra 60% increase in blaze artillery duration allows the burn stacks to tick massively higher at the end of blaze artillery and the multiplier on blaze artillery hits much larger numbers with the extra 3 seconds of duration. Once you compensate for the lower starting DPS and the exponential damage scaling dependent on duration, your overall DPS on blaze artillery is significantly higher with a max duration Protea build than other build options. It is really the way to go if you want to do hard or longer missions, plus there is significantly less recasting of shield satellites, shrapnel nades, and dispensary.
Range is a trap if you want to kill faster, for example on survival. Its good for defense but still not needed.
its much better to drop some 1 or even 2 range mods to make room for equilibrium, which REALLY is a game changer, and maybe something else like mecha setup or more damage.
the reason range is bad is because enemies just wont get to you with gloom up at max range or even just grenades, it is just TOO good. I often even just use gloom without the 100% bonus strength, just so enemies come in faster.
Unrelated to the video are we still getting the tierlist brozime? Cheers.
ОтветитьMy protea build has been max duration + pillage for years at this point. 5 duration shards gets up to %400 duration because blaze artillery scales with duration. Then Pillage + corrosive projection + molt augmented can %100 aoe armor strip. Also equilibrium + synth fiber on protea is god tier. Health orbs count as energy, and proteas health orbs are real big.
ОтветитьAs someone who doesn't really have acess to archon shards yet or arcanes like energize, would subsuming nourish onto her 4 be a smart way to boost the energy economy(and slide in some additional viral)? Or would it be better to just put on equilibrium lol?
ОтветитьTake out the overextended, unless your only doing open world things with her. Blind range instead of overextended and get a Equilibrium in there. Then you'd have enough power strength for pillage.
ОтветитьIdk what they was thinking when they designed her prime
ОтветитьSomething else to note, heat inherit works on her blaze artillery, you don't need to use it, but its hilarious damage and scales ridiculously well. I use it with ensnare subsumed, it can easily kill most enemies on conjunction survival in 3 - 4 shots and still have plenty of time left on the turret.
ОтветитьI dunno what they were thinking with Protea Prime's design. She has these weird jiggly pigtails. It's disgusting
ОтветитьI personally use nezha’s firewalker in place of her 4, because the movement speed and aoe is nice, but also the status immunity it gives when standing on the flame trail.
ОтветитьThat build is all around pretty horrible.
Flow is just straight up worse than Equilibrium for energy sustain, thanks to dispensary,
making even that Arcane Energize unneccessary. That frees up an arcance slot.
As other people said, Augur mods mess up your Shield Sattelites.
The "Subsume over her 4" is just straight up idiotic.
While it's on, you are immune to death, the augment strips armor in 4-5 hits of your
damaging abilities (Opening up your Aura slot for something actually good.)
and when you reactivate it you regain all of the energy spent since activating it
and do a bunch of AoE damage.
Modding for high duration and strength while having efficiency and range be slightly negative (~80%),
gives you way more advantages and doesn't make her rely as much on her passive.
agree %100 about the base prime skin, the deluxe is sooo beautiful 😊
ОтветитьDoes roar boost the damage of her turrents?
ОтветитьOh no another investment build I'll never financially recover from this lol.
ОтветитьI find Protea's 4 more useful than some might think, and that's mainly due to the augment Temporal Erosion providing her 1 and 2 armor strip when it's active.
ОтветитьShe needs a 20% buff all around I have tried three build she keeps dying on steel path!
ОтветитьThis is a terrible frame that isnt useful for anything :)
ОтветитьI just wanted to say that i ran Auger Message after seeing this vid and shredded SP today with no problem at all.
ОтветитьGloom? Wtf. Do you play this game?
ОтветитьThis guy’s builds are so bad. He doesn’t even realize he’s killing his own shield gating with augur mods.
ОтветитьProtea 4th ability is good change my mind
ОтветитьSo apparently there is an oversight that makes augur mods actively make protea worse whenever enemies can one shot her shields as the augur shield gait overrides the shield nade shield gate leaving her very vulnerable...
ОтветитьNO AUGUR NO AUGUR NO AUGUR NO AUGUR NO AUGUR, REMOVE THAT REMOVE THAT
Ответитьive read that running augur mods on protea actually lowers her shield gating that comes from her 1
ОтветитьCASCADIA FLAIRE ON YOUR SECONDARY
ОтветитьThe Equilibrium effect, from the mod or shard, is really huge for Protea to grab the health orbs from Dispensary so it will continue to spit them out. Also, there's a bug that kills her normally extremely long shield gate if you get any energy return from the Auger mods or if anyone is running the BR aura, so watch out.
ОтветитьUnpopular opinion: arcane energize is kinda useless because of protea's dispensary + equilibrium.
Also, I use huras kubrow with protea. It increases survivability a lot.
Augur mod on protea??? L build
Ответитьsomehow forgets nautilus
ОтветитьWith the same mods, my strength is only 84 , cant work out why..
ОтветитьI always played her with pillage at 300% and every fourth cast you strip everything. No need to prime with a super heat.
Ответитьso is the visual prime effect for primes no longer a thing in modern WF???
ОтветитьThe most splendid build for protea prime. But people are too weak and lazy to build it. Also, you need at least 172% ability strength on her to make gloom work so protea passive can bring it up to 272% to make enemies slow for 95% speed. Using Molt Augment to reach that much is too slow. Also you need at least 145% ability efficiency and 155% ability strength to regulate the energy spending along with your dispensary ability. Last but not least, try having at least 235% ability range to make gloom the best aoe cc ability. With all this, grab yourself a Incarnon weapon and start killing everything.
Ответитьi personally couldnt imagine playing her without her 4. its just so fun
ОтветитьI think subsuming Hydroid's Tempest Barrage and using the Viral Tempest augment - while absolutely overkill - is hilariously strong as its just the right build for it and the viral procs synergize brilliantly with her slash grenades. It also significantly reduces the grenade spam, just press 4 twice and grenade twice and any enemy that goes into the AOE for 20s will die.
ОтветитьDid Brozime ever cover which archon shards he went with? Im assuming triple strength + cast speed?
ОтветитьNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE AUGUR MODS ON PROTEA LMAO
ОтветитьAs much as i love Protea especially my play style really suites her.. actually im a Protea Main.. i decided to be a Nyx Main cos i want to be different.. i dont hate META but it makes the game boring in my opinion..
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