I'm Concerned about Jordan Peterson

That depends on what your definition of "concerned" and "about" are.

الوضع كارتي في الغرب صراحة الأغلبية تعيش دون معنى للحياة أما البقية الأقلية تتبع معنى أو بكلمة أخرى دين محرف و يعبدون مخلوق متلهم كان يأكل الطعام و أمه و رفعه الخالق الأصلي.
صراحة الملحدين الغربين يعتبرون أذكى وليس افضل من المتديينين لأن حتى ذلك المسيحي يذل قريب نوعا ما من الحقيقه ما دام يعترف أن هناك إلاه و القصة الابراهيمية.

Pride is his Issue.

Jordan Peterson needs a break...

Catholicism is in Jordan's way

For people confused by JP after this debate (like myself), I invite you to explore these books for clarity:

-Apostate by Joram van Klaveren
-How the bible led me home by Brandon Estes
-The eighth scroll by Laurence Brown

It's like he sees the sign (eg Christian values, or the idea of God in the abstract sense) he even admires the sign, but he doesn't look far enough to see where the sign points to. It's like confusing compass showing north pole with the north pole itself. It's not enough to just agree with the good values, they have to come from the relationship with Christ. This was also evident the way he defined God as conscience - but conscience, while indeed God given, isn't God, in a same way a mirror isn't a thing it reflects.

If we are the stardust we create our right and wrong. The whole philosophy is about what is right and wrong.
I am an atheist and i choose to co exist and not kill or harm because i understand the suffering of another person. empathy is a part of the biology btw.
Moreover i am afraid of religious believers who use god to to identify good and bad, because if tomorrow their interpretation of the bible changes or they find some additional text so will change their good and bad. For me its not moral

There is nothing to be concerned about.
They changed the titel because there was no Christian in that discussion.

Without God, you say, there is not foundation for making judgements of right and wrong. The God of the Bible says both "Love your enemies" and "Kill every last man, woman and child" (i.e. commit genocide). It is truly hard for me to imagine a more "relativistic" standard of moral truth than that.

Jordan Peterson's "demeanor" has been hostile and aggressive for a very long time now. But mostly only when he was directing his ire towards "marxists" (while he was lying through his teeth about Marxism). That core hatred of his has merely grown over the years. He has never (or almost never) practiced what he preaches regarding "steel-manning" one's enemies. He has been a bearer of false witness against his ideological enemies from the very beginning.

He absolutely answered it when he quoted 'you will know them by their fruit'. His fruit is refusing to acknowledge Christ.

I watched the video and I felt as though Jordan Peterson reacted appropriately. He made some harsh remarks and used extremes to explain as he would, but I think the people asking the questions in the spots where Jordan could be perceived as unlikable is because they were being disrespectful or hard to watch. I didn’t enjoy watching parts of it. I almost stopped watching it when the man said, “ I am quite something, and you are quite nothing.” That was wild for him to say. I agree on the other hand. Jordan is off the mark and is still lacking in some areas. Specifically his stance on being a Christian.

Some of these young men in the video were asking many valid questions and Peterson clearly evaded and obfuscated instead of debating in good faith

good vid

Too smart for the bible. Too self absorbed for sacrifice. He literally needs to practice what he preaches.

I've been concerned about Peterson being osmosed into Christian communities for a while. His theism and intellectual strength are attractive but neither his worldview nor his behavior are not Christlike. He's always enigmatic about his faith in a way that makes it clear he's not in out corner. His fruits are strife and contention. He doesn't win hearts and minds. I'm glad I'm not alone in this, and thank you for sharing this.

I would like to Pray for Jorden to not only come to Jesus but for his health and wellness. I still would like to meet him to let him know that I have met Jesus and theres no philosophical explanation other then he is real and he loves all of us including Jorden.

To be fair those students are immediately aggressive and mean just because its Jordan Peterson. He wasn't great in those debates but he is only human.

My head was actually spinning watching the whole debate😂😂 maybe im not a smart enough to understand it

There you are your hero JP. Did not have the cohones to except Jesus Christ coward. Just like all the cowards that allowed his crusification.

I am an atheist but I do not reject God. To me there is no God. I think most religious people are just brainwashed into their belief.

He used to be quite something. Right now, Peterson is quite nothing. He has no substance left. He can only dodge questions and engage in semantics until time runs out.

Why is he so perturbed about the question? Does anyone really think that as pedantic as he is that he would accept a debate without a clearly defined debate topic? That was a fair and relevant question. Even if Jordan was representing theists and not specifically Christians, that is a fair and relevant question. Different religions believe different things about God. He had no obligation to accept the debate.

I stopped watching him a while ago because he overcomplicates things, so I don't know if he's been cranky like that for a while. But, he's acting worse than Cathy Newman did when she interviewed him. Maybe the fact that his wife famously converted to Roman Catholicism recently makes him feel more pressure with that question. It's well-known that she has made her choice, so now he's cranky because he hasn't chosen a recognized religion. Just a guess...

So this clever kid treated Peterson the way he treats others and all of a sudden the real Peterson vomits his religious right wing fascists hate on the young gentleman now why is that not surprising haha these fascists oh those fascists haha. For a professor of psychology Peterson is his own worst student writ large. Temper temper mr Peterson

You profoundly lack any moral or ethical understanding or judgment if you can not see the open ended bs that vomits from Peterson then there is no hope for you is there, Peterson is as fake as religious right wing fascists come but you cannot tell the difference. The fundamental problem with religious right wing fascists is their enormous capacity for dishonesty

And because he is lukewarm... He gets very Joseph Campbell with Nietschean, Jungian, even neo-Platonic metaphor and yet courts the right and debates the meaning what meaning is into semantic nonsense. We had this problem as an atheist with the four Horsemen: Dawkins, Harris, Dennet and Hitchens. It was angry. It did not represent me and relegated religious experience and wisdom in a broad brushed way.

I hope you do well. I will not subscribe because I don't think that would be honest. Where did I get that from? Maybe from prophet Zarathushtra, the OG monotheist, when Jews were still henotheist - who taught to stand for righteousness against the lie. You do you, but I don't wish to convert you, and if I am going to follow anything it would be Advaita Vedanta or Zoroastrianism, or even Sufi Islam. Pick a side Jordan.

As to the free speech thing, I believe in meeting people where they are at and addressing them as they want to be, but, also don't believe in forcing you to. Respect and freedom goes both ways.

Jorps will never become Christian. He uses God and the Word to make money. He's done

Jordan Peterson is a BS artist. I am agnostic and follow Jesus teachings of compassion and love. 

Jordan Peterson and 99% of religious people online have one thing in common which is their red flag: they claim to know it all and to have all the answers even in subjects they have zero expertise and lack the humility.


any religious person that hates on LGBTQ, or try to tell woman what to do with their body or forced their religion believes in others is NO TRUE CHRISTIAN AND IN FACT THEY ARE EVERYTHING THAT JESUS was against.. His best friend Maria Magdalene was a prostitute.

The kid was harsh, but he was right. JP needs to pick a side. The Bible is SO clear that you don't get to straddle the line! You're either in or you're out. "For what fellowship can light have with darkness?" And even among the churches, God prefers we be hot or cold, because those lukewarm are far more offensive to him. JP - you either have been saved by the redeeming blood of Jesus Christ, or you are condemned! I pray you will wholeheartedly choose to receive the free gift of salvation and enter the eternal Kingdom of God. I'm glad this young man challenged you, and I hope it propels you to get off the fence and make a real choice. One day you will be before the judgement seat of Christ - not in a metaphorical way, but truly. In reality! You will understand, then, that He is not a concept, but the reigning Authority. It's time to repent and believe!

It can’t be ignored how emotionally unregulated Peterson is. There is also a lack of humility that is… misplaced.. 😂

"I've been a fan of Jordan Peterson for years". Why? He's so obviously an atheist pretending to believe in a generic not necessarily real deity.

Finally, opponents that are able to hold his feet to the fire! I am really happy to see this. When he is just going unopposed, he can trick some people with his authoritarian sounding voice and lecturing attitude

He is irritated because people are exposing logical fallacies in his reasoning. Many people had him in logical binds where the next step was for him to admit that inconsistencies in his arguments have been exposed. But he lacks honour, so he then backs out by pretending to not understand basic words or by refusing to engage in hypothetical, which is a totally legit debating technique btw

Had he remained calm, he would have maintained more of his support. But that would not make him less wrong

It sounds like he wants his cake and eat it too. This all started when he signed with the Daily wire. Unfortunately, Jews do not like it when their subjects claim Jesus. Hollywood does the same. They rather you be an atheist than claim Jesus. Peterson has been a defender of Israel but the pressure to share his faith has become higher than ever. He’s just trying to protect his reputation, work, legacy and family. I understand him. But with great power and provisions comes great responsibility. And one must at some point trust the Lord and pick up our cross.

Jordan is an atheist who’s livelihood depends on Christians believing he’s on their side. He wants plausible deniability, and can always say he never claimed to be a Christian..

I like to think of it like this, you either have one foot in the world or one foot in heaven. You can’t be on both sides. I’m thinking Peterson is on the fence for this one.

Jubilee is messy, I'm almost certain they lured him in by false pretences. He has never claimed to be Christian.

It's kind of a double standard to hold Jordan Peterson to Christian values when he isn't a believer. It seems to me like he is actively learning about Christ and I also pray that he comes to faith. But to hold him to a character that is biblical when he hasn't exactly come out claiming to be a believer can result as a deterrent from him ever coming to faith to begin with. He's been through the wringer in the media, and I'm not going to say that he should behave in the way that he does all the time. But to hold him to the standard of a believer when he isn't usually becomes problematic when evangelizing to him.

He has always been this way. How do Christians not have discernment when it comes to the fruit of the spirit?!? People who have no love in the way they speak to unbelievers don’t know Christ!

Isn’t this a Christian versus atheists ? Jordan Peterson: i don’t know 🤷‍♂️ “ so you don’t know where your at right now?” That’s literally a very appropriate question.

Peterson is the unthinking person's thinking person and many of the former are starting to recognise this.

Nice, you preached the gospel

I'm sorry to say that I have to agree with the smug atheist boy when he says Jordan is nothing. There is no way to describe a person who stands for nothing.

Sell all of your possessions and give it to the poor.-Jesus
How many Christians want to debate me?

Do not store up treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy and thieves break in and steal..-Jesus
How many Christians want to debate me?

Do not resist the borrower.-Jesus
I said do not resist the borrower. So when someone asks you for money give it to them. I don’t care if it’s irresponsible. Have faith.
How many Christians want to debate me?

Id be interested to watch a video of the 2 of you talking

Jordan Peterson ever since joining the Daily Wire has shifted his brand towards being moreso being a bully rather than an intelectual. It was a shift that greatly bennifited him. Not saying hes not intelegent, but his posture has evolved for the worse