J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1982 - Discussion with Scientists 2 - Psychological suffering

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It's interesting how far we've drifted due to language and labels, So far as the ego is the result of symbols and is a symbol itself. By language we divide and identify, by a personal self we measure from lack / individual. If you can drop it all you can see from the beginner holistic mind before symbols and definition arise. There are no "things" in nature, it "is". Beyond this often long path to seeing the mind is free.

Good speech J krishna murti sir. Namaste

Who else is here in August 2024 and listening with open hearts and instantly changes in your life perception .. What are gifts❤❤❤

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Os animais sentem e lembram... Uma fêmea que perdeu o filhote ao nascer por algumas vezes, como pex as vacas leiteiras. Elas desenvolvem um trauma. Se observarem a reação da mesma despois de perder o filhote por uma ou duas vezes, elas demonstram comportamento de desespero...

Free from the burden of ego. Be very lite like Air. Why will you loose your job when you living egolessly. This will lead you to the death. JK is taking about death less living.

Dr Boham said right. When think about biological disorders you increase it. You care it but don't think about it psychologically.The truth is you are not bodymind you are who sees it.

The man is right, isolation makes us anxious and we immediately start to attack when we feel threatened. This is exactly the pattern of animals that live in the wild. And ironically we think we are intelligent, but react like wild animals

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Video filmado en 1982, año en que tuvo lugar la Guerra de Malvinas. De ahí se entiende por qué Jiddu krishnamurti menciona frecuentemente en sus ejemplos sobre la relación entre la indentificación y el sufrimiento, a argentinos y británicos.

"In isolation the is no security and therefor there is no order"

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It's many years old, I can see Krishna ji had more psychological knowledge then psychologist of that time.

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He is repeating the same message: be alone, find out, don't go for identification, isolation, security and the seeming strength that comes out of those words.

With the advancing field of Trauma, Interpersonal Neurobiology, and Polyvagal Theory, we can see a more embodied understanding of what herein the speaker is calling "thoughts." The reality that the body is sending more information, including of threat, also to the brain, is of great import. Thus body-based modalities have elucidated much.
Yet all of these seeming progressions lead back to nature's way. The dog he speaks of, doesn't carry thoughts, but more importantly, doesn't carry the excess energy produced in the fight, he literally shakes it off. Therefore, he's not carrying the state of tension in his body.

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Beautiful❤ thank you for sharing!

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Molto interessante.
Grazie.

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the fact that this content is accessible to anyone who seeks It's just amazing, why me here,so many years later and so far away from the event, I'm capable to find this important and relevant it's just magical. Truly makes me think that technological development is but a consequence of relating individuals. Time is just the happening of that drive of energy.

May we be blessed now, yesterday and ever where life is there to witness. ❤

In the realm of truth and endless skies,
Resides a sage, profound and wise.
Jiddu Krishnamurti, his name renowned,
A philosopher whose wisdom astounds.

With clarity, he unraveled the mind's maze,
Questioning the beliefs that the world displays.
He urged us to observe, to truly see,
The illusions that bind, the ego's decree.

"Truth is a pathless land," he declared,
No guru, no doctrine should be shared.
Unfolding the layers that cloud our perception,
He beckoned us toward self-reflection.

No authority, no external guide,
To seek the truth, within us reside.
To explore the depths of thought and desire,
Unveiling the ego's cunning attire.

He spoke of freedom, both inward and outward,
Breaking the chains that trap us, no doubt.
To be aware of conditioning's grip,
To break free, to let awareness slip.

In stillness and silence, he found his retreat,
To listen, observe, and let the mind meet,
The vastness of life's infinite shore,
Where truth, unbound, forever more.

Beyond conclusions, beyond ideas,
He challenged us to shed our fears.
To question, to doubt, to inquire,
To ignite the flame of inner fire.

A radical revolution, he inspired,
To live each moment, unhindered, untired.
To be the observer of our own strife,
Embracing the beauty, the essence of life.

In the teachings of J Krishnamurti, we find,
An invitation to explore the depths of the mind.
To discover the truth that sets us free,
And live a life of profound clarity.

Krishnamurti's dialogue is connected with nature and his explanation is so serious.

Thanks for the effort 🙏🏼🙏🏼

K has taken observation to a different level.

I think perhaps ideas about animals' ability to remember and to think ahead etc have changed. I think animals do remember both good and bad experiences. After all, why does an animal that has been separated from another animal for many years show such excitement upon encountering that animal again years later?

Its more than inteligense , more than wisdom, and this kind of talks will never be caught in time factor. I always feel they are in lack of words to express the facts. And that make me to listen this discussion again and again.

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Il rispetto per ogni punto di Vista e per ogni esperienza Fa si che ogniuno o e' d'accordo o non lo e' ha la possibilita di prendere o lasciare ....qui non si tratta di dare o non dare ragione o punti ai 4 personaggi ,ma di partecipare con Neutralität ai loro colloqui ...

I love his baby like smile.

Where is isolation coming from? What is it?

Im greatful that i could hear this conversation. I was feeling more connected, peaceful and whole. I felt that i hear sthing i see sthing i already new deep inside. It helped! Thank you!
Love is the answer oneness, awareness🙏🏻

When you see so many comments it means we all thought about it as we are, we have all kinds of opinion. Cliche. We are just here to observe them. Not find conclusions.

Have you noticed when JK asks the question It’s like he already knows the answer but he puts the listener in a awkward position, he almost provokes the thought process of them and patiently waits for them to answer. If that person is diverting from where JK wants him to direct then he corrects the persons direction of thought by asking him more questions. Basically JK shows you a mirror of your own intelligence, being-ness, consciousness. JK is a pure consciousness talking about itself.

K. comes to teach, not to learn?

This been uploaded 8 years ago... and when I was wondering on finding my path... I couldn't find it.
Now I just stumbled upon it randomly...
This is outrageous.
This should be recommended to anyone's using words such as personal growth, psychology, self-development etc..

Hopefully it is not possible but I need Krishnamurti & Freud on the same talk

Dear Krishnaji,
Ohh what a wonderful human!
In this discussion he started talking after 12 minutes! Wonderful sense and attention of listening 🙏!

If I am hungry and my people live in chaos what then my judgement

People subtitling these videos must be enlightened