Birth of the Tokugawa Shogunate | Sengoku Jidai Episode 59

next series: bakumatsu please

I love everything you do!

So well done. Your art selections are excellent

Boukoku no Akito (Tokugawa)

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Euro Britannia Shōgunate.
Europia Shōgunate.
Julius Kingsley Shōgunate.

Love Live! School Idol Festival (Tokugawa)

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Aqours Shōgunate.
Nijigasaki High School Idol Club Shōgunate.
School Idol Tomodachi Shōgunate.

Manga Bible Serise (Tokugawa)

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Manga Majesty Shōgunate.
Manga Melech Shōgunate.
Manga Messengers Shōgunate.
Manga Messiah Shōgunate.
Manga Metamorphosis Shōgunate.
Manga Mutiny Shōgunate.

Shrewd, intelligent, cunning and strategic, Tokugawa Ieyasu was probably one of the greatest military leader in history. After I read Shogun by James Cavell I started studying Japanese history.

It's a shame that Naomasa Ii died of a bullet wound to the shoulder nowadays could easily be healed such a great warrior dying from a wound that seems like nothing nowadays, still, I've always like the Tokugawa, never liked Mitsunari even as far back as Kessen 1, I wonder what interesting facts I'll find out about next.

I am reading the novel Taiko by Eiji Yoshikawa. He presents a radically different view of Toyotomi Hideyoshi than you have presented. In an earlier episode, you said that Hideyoshi suggested Nobunaga's infant son as heir and himself as guardian as a way to gain precedence over other competitors for the top position. But in the book, it was not Hideyoshi who suggested that the child should be named Nobunaga's heir. He did bring the child to the meeting, but the suggestion came from others - whether he orchestrated that or not is not mentioned. Also, four people were put in charge of the raising of the child and administering the empire. Hideyoshi gradually became the leader of that group of four because they were mainly warriors and hated the heavy administrative load. Hideyoshi was always an administrator first. He took the load, they let him and gradually he became their leader, hence the leading contender to carry on Nobunaga's "task".

Guy made a connection between his family and the Minamoto DECADES before it actually came into play, back when the emperor probably thought of nothing and just signed it away.

I love how you are using the portraits of the daimyo from the Nobunaga's Ambitions and Samurai Warrior series.

After the battle of Sekigahara, Japan was on the precipice of enormous crossroads as Carmine Jr. from the Sopranos would say.

I've read before that the reason Hideyoshi didn't adopt the Shogun title was that he lacked the appropriate noble lineage.

The Tokugawa are my family Kingdom people especially military from my Bhagwan Ashoka CHITRODA Empire from the year 0 to the 16th century. My Great Great Great Grandfather Bhagwan Waga Ji Chitroda returned to India in the 16th century as Chatrapatti Shivaji Maharaj I. His son gave much of his land to farmers and poor people he was known through the Silk Road trading partnerships as Shiekh 🔺Nin = Shiekh Anin as he controlled all the dairy farms in Japan. And Arabia. In those days the title of Shiekh was used for Indian Hindu Khumbar Mogals it’s not a Muslim title.🤴🏽🕉🔺➕

Having binge watched the entire series in a matter of days, I can say that my image of a lot of people of the era have been drastically changed. One of them is Tokugawa Ieyasu. For the longest time I suppose, I, and I think that includes a great many of us, thinks of Ieyasu as someone who just played the long game and simply reaped what Toyotomi and Nobunaga worked hard to plant. Basically, a lot of casuals, and probably up to certain portion of both amateur and professional historians, can agree that Tokugawa was someone who simply stood by and took the chance when it presented itself. However as I progressed throughout the series, I've started to notice that perhaps Tokugawa Ieyasu wasn't exactly the long con player everybody thinks he is.

I hear a lot of people say that Ieyasu was ambitious and had dreams of becoming Shogun as early as he broke away from the Imagawa and when he traced his lineage to the Minamoto, but to me, I think Ieyasu was just someone who was... Lucky. I also mean it quite literally. I think we overplay Ieyasu's ambition to becoming Shogun simply because he did become one in the end. However I think that at his early days, he probably never dreamt, let alone think of actually trying to become Shogun. Of course I think he had dreams of becoming one, but I think that dream was something every person had during that time. After all, I'm quite certain each and one of us had at least dreamt of ruling the world at least once no? I'm certain that his Shogun dreams in his early days were just that, faraway dreams. After all, Nobunaga was practically plowing Central Japan at his height. Nobunaga had fought coalitions and had always come out on top. Even when the Shogun and Central Japan stood opposition to Nobunaga, he stood his ground and won. Ieyasu on the other hand, struggled against the Takeda and it wasn't until Shingen died and Nobunaga arrived to help when things turned out for the better. Of course I'm not downplaying Ieyasu, but simply pointing out his situation when Nobunaga was still around. Even when Nobunaga died, I don't think Ieyasu already had dreams of becoming Shogun.

When Nobunaga died, the Oda clan was already a mighty clan. Whoever defeated Mitsuhide was certain to become the next head of all the lands under the Oda and I'm in the opinion that only an Oda retainer can truly inherit that position. Even if Tokugawa Ieyasu defeated Mitsuhide, Ieyasu did not have the prestige to take the lead and take control of the Oda even through a puppet. The Tokugawa was still inherently weaker than the Oda and first and foremost, Ieyasu was an Oda outsider. He may have been a staunch ally, but that's it. Only an Oda retainer may inherit the glory the Oda possess and it was something Hideyoshi realized. Not simply realizing it was his for the taking, but also realizing that only they in the Oda can. Which leads me to believing that by the Komaki-nagakute engagement, Ieyasu wasn't vying for power against Hideyoshi. I saw it as him honoring his alliance WITH the Oda and NOT with Hideyoshi. After all, Hideyoshi was usurping power from the Oda, which means Hideyoshi was no longer an "Oda retainer" to Tokugawa Ieyasu.

Which is why I think, that only when Hideyoshi was clearly not going to have a bright future with a successor, did Tokugawa Ieyasu had dreams of truly becoming Shogun. I'm sure that when he swore fealty under Hideyoshi, he wasn't planning on becoming Shogun yet. He probably entertained the thought, but Hideyoshi was still alive so perhaps he kept it at the back of his head. Which is why only when did Hideyoshi truly died, and with a very young heir to boot, did Tokugawa Ieyasu, truly began to move to become Shogun. You can tell because he was very very worried. You can tell that his move to become Shogun was something He never truly dreamt which is why he was so nervous. He entertained the thought before, but he probably never thought of actually doing it. That was my impression as I watched your battle of sekigahara video. If he was someone who was truly planning to become Shogun from the the start, he wouldn't be so nervous and jittery at the prelude to sekigahara. After all, Nobunaga wasn't nervous when he marched to Kyoto at the head of a massive army because Nobunaga had been preparing to march to Kyoto for the longest time.

This is why I truly think that Tokugawa Ieyasu was someone who simply got lucky. By sheer luck that he outlived all the competent major Daimyos, and by sheer luck that the Anti-Tokugawa western faction was lead by literally the worst choice possible for them. Tokugawa was the lucky cunning man of the era. He wasn't a long con player, he was the man that was on the right spot, at the right moment and was alive at the right time.

“my ancestor was fat as”
me

He should be Onimusha 5 main villain

Not Oda Nobunaga, not Toyotomi Hideyose... only Tokogawa Ieyasu became Shogun...his family lineage ruled Japan until the Meije restoration...

I do hope some day you do a review of the manga/anime Shigurui, which features Ieyasu's younger brother, Tadanaga

Oh thank God, you finally stopped pronouncing it "shogun-ITE"

I think a bigger issue with the Ashikaga state was that they were effectively puppets of two powerful families from the start. So they couldn't actually form a strong state without overcoming their influence or gaining their approval. Tokugawa on the other hand, while pledging allegiance to the Toyotomi, was not puppeted by any power, and had silently built his own connections while they were busy with the Imjin war, so he was in a much better situation to create a strong and stable state. Granted, the Edo period government eventually ran into problems that doomed it, but they did have a much better start than the Ashikaga government.

Up in the North. The Date was given the huge Miyagi domain and Masamune went on to build the prosperous city of Sendai from there

With the reshuffling and having Fudai and Tozama class of Daimyo, would Tokugawa shogunate survive to this day if Matt Perry and his black ship never appeared in Japan?

Well some say Kobayakawa was haunted by the ghost of Otani and his army that Kobayakawa died from madness.... but I think in modern term, maybe he had PTSD or Survival Guilt for betraying the Toyotmi side. After all Hideyoshi did treated him like a son when he was little.

I think Hideyori actually just want to live peacefully, it seems more like his mom Lady Yodo was just too greedy or not used to living life as a small Daimyo that he egged his son (basically herself) to start a war again. Poor kid never had a chance, he was only about 18 or 19 years old to commit seppuku. But then again this gave Ieyasu a good excuse to get rid of the Toyotomi one last time

I really like your work and like the rich history comes with it. I have note regarding the games. There one series on PS2 and one of early games in that time. Kessen 1 and also 3. 1 talks about Sakighara and leads to Osaka and other way around to Edo. 3 talks about Nobunaga's story more. Both strategic games but 3 more on control unit now like 1 which have overall of battlefield.
Did you checked them. On personal opinion I liked 1 more then 3.

"Hidetada was then named shogun.

Now, if we remember, Hidetada was the complete idiot, the just, absolute, level 10 moron, with the market value of a half eaten sandwich; that committed to the downright stupid, completely lousy and addle-minded decision to attack Ueda castle.

By doing this, the dolt-boy Hidetada not only put his own worthless life at risk, but he very much, very stupidly, risked his father's success at Sekigahara. Now, keep in mind, when I say Hidetada, I'm talking this boy dumb as hell. Scholars believe that his brain may have actually been half brick. If you look up 'dumbass shogun' in the dictionary, it doesn't even bother showing his picture because it's a given that he's the definition.

So anyways, the absolutely smooth-brained Hidetada became shogun, and by succeeding his father, they established the ide.... "

Isn't there a pretty prevalent belief that a lot of what yodo-dono was credited with stirring up, actually more or less a frame job by the Tokugawa so they'd have an indisputable cause for war?

and Tokugawa Era long enought before fallen into new goverment of Meiji era......200+ year

Maybe being a Minamoto is similar to the Chinese's concept of having the Mandate of Heaven. While anyone can rule the land, having the Mandate makes you more legitimate. Maybe it's the same as being a Minamoto.

I like your voice, it´s way more manly than mine xD

Tokugawa handing power down to his son, I was starting to have the movie Ran type of anxiety of oh crap here we go again.

AIGHT IM BACK, took some time to sleep though, but last episode was pretty sad for the western army.

Time to head towards the Osaka campaign!

If Yodo was patient, the history of
Japan would have been very different.

When we get to the end of the epic historical period, can we all get a timelapse of medieval Japan in which clans ruled their domains from the Onin War, skip a few time gaps into Oda's meteoric rise, and finally into the succeeding regimes of Akechi, Toyotomi, and the victorious Tokugawa. It would be a nice and fitting end to see which clans get to live through and shine in what was the cataclysmic Age of the Country at War.

And no more wars... this is how the Tokugawa would echo into their firm, cautious rule

Why didn't tokugawa ieyasu just kill off tozama daimyos will there not have been a chance they would have rebelled against tokugawa from there far off lands..?

Wait a minute I didn't watch the previous episode, hold up I'll be back.

Tokugawa has learned an important lesson many other rulers have failed to learn. War is VERY bad for business, especially if you lose. better to tamp things down at home and swallow your desire for glory for the sake of keeping everything from blowing up on the homefront. Conquering warrior kings are popular and all but rarely very stable or long lasting. Administrator kings are much less likely to have songs sung in their honor but they tend to stick around for a while and put their names on much more lasting monuments of one kind or another.

Good video 👍🏻

Other than Shadow Warriors, I know nothing of the Edo Period of the Tokugawa Bakufu.

Nobunaga conquers. Hideyoshi convinces. Tokugawa waits . Greatness!!!

I always found it fitting that the two biggest traitors at Sekigahara lost everything they sought to gain and died ignominious deaths not long after.

Man I wish Edo Period wasn't so Boring, then again it's the natural course of History I guess

Tokugawa Ieyasu: Now, it is time for my house to rise and it shall rule forever. And thus, we ain’t gonna welcome anyone that live outside our borders

Admiral Matthew Perry: Oh yeah? Let’s talk like gentlemen, capisce?

Mori/Shimazu/Chosokabe: Curse you, Tokugawa Ieyasu! Remember this, our heirs and descendants will bury you and burn your house down!

Congrats on making it through the Shengoku Jidai officially!

So is this the last episode of sendoko jedi then edo or what

Keep up the great videos!

Sounds like a putin kind of peace. Interesting timing

I'm excited for the Winter and Summer Siege of Osaka Castle. The Last Stand of the Toyotomi, and the last thorn Ieyasu had to deal with.
Also, isn't it Yodo-dono's fault that Hideaki sided with Ieyasu? Hideaki had asked her for advice, and she said it would be wiser to support Ieyasu, rather than Mitsunari.

“If we learn from history, if opposition isn’t eliminated, they’ll come back to eliminate and fabricate what’s untrue”