MSE or Double Jaw Surgery?

You've shared a bit about the positive benefits of splitting the suture, I'm curious if you've experienced, or heard of, any negative side effects from having the split or MSE in general?

Can someone explain the difference between mse and dna?

What’s your ideal solution for someone only interested in aesthetics improvement?

Why is his hair hanging over his eyes? Is that practical? Please someone explain

What are some of the differences between MSE and the DNA appliance?

Where and how do I go about getting MSE?

Did you get the mse device out after the expansion? Or not

Hey Ronald, you said, that in the case of a very recessed "ugly" chin/lower jaw, MSE might not be ideal to solve the problem (I thought the same). But what do you recommend for those, if they are not willing to do surgery? Would still be something like AGGA the way to go?
Thank you!

i thought this guy had widened his jaw with MSE but in this vid his jaw doesn't even look wide, it looks like his before pic.

So if MSE expand the maxila that means you will have a hole between your front 2 teeth?

one question, when you do split the palatal suture with mse and expand, what fills up in that gap? is it blood and permanent scar tissue? or does bone eventually fill it up??

Hi Ronald, I will like to know which doctor for MSE do you recommend in Orlando.

When you said black triangles, did you mean the dark buccal corridors on either side of the mouth?

So great Skyping you 🙌🏻

Can you make video on DOME please

Thank you so much Ronnie. I had a consultation for MSE this week and I am hopeful that it will be enough to resolve my nasal breathing problems

Why does his face look weird? Is he still recovering from the mse surgery?!

CAN YOU DO BOTH SURGERY?

Hey Ronald! Can I ask you about my plan?

Basically I'm 15 as of now and I'm applying the mewing principles. According to my fellow redditors I should be able to achieve fully forward growth by 25. I would like to know if after achieving close to forward growth or forward growth form 10 years mewing can I get MSE and FM? Will this help me achieve forward growth, palatal expansion and upswing? Also what to do about my mandible? Thanks in advance

The way you talk “do mse” seems so easy, not as easy as to FIND SOMEONE WHO WORKS WITH THOSE SURGERIES...

What is mse and where to buy it

i thought about mewing till 25 and if nothing goes right im going to do jaw surgery..

Mse for deepbite?

What is the purpose of this man? Test all expander palate?

Yo what if you need surgery for a flat face and also expansion for narrow and high arched palate

Ronald you forgot one thing about MSE, what is unique about MSE is it doesn’t just expand the nasal floor, it also expands the nasal walls laterally, which hugely improves nasal breathing. The oral surgeon that will be doing my MSE told me that patients report more dramatic improvement in nasal breathing from MSE compared to the “Segmental/multi-piece” LeFort 1 surgery (in which they cut your maxilla further into 2, 3 or 4 pieces to expand laterally). The reason why MSE is superior to this for nasal breathing is because the segmental lefort only expands the nasal floor, and does nothing for the nasal walls because the lefort 1 line is right at the nasal floor level, while MSE expands the whole nasal cavity (floor and walls). This is why I decided to do MSE first and then go into double jaw surgery 6 months after (to take care of the forward movement). For lateral movement of the maxilla there is nothing better than MSE.

Anybody know surgeons within UK that offer such services?

do you neeed to remove wisdom teeth with doing MSE, and does SARPE expand the nasal airways?

You didnt address how mse makes your nose shape change. It’ll make the nose look wider which is undesirable for many. It’ll also leave you with a bugs bunny gap for several months post surgery. These factors are a huge downside if you’re an adult looking into this

Do you know of a MSE provider near Toronto Canada

Has your headaches gone away

MSE does not provide any forward movement (maxillary advancement) or counter-clockwise rotation, two things that improve facial appearance in many people. A segmental LeFort will be able to expand the bite and also do these things. MSE is really intended to fix a cross bite, not to improve the airway as mentioned here

O well the forwarded swing of the jaw is what mewing.... It seem well to me that you're not a mewing fan.... Lmao

Can mse help a recessed chin?

Is MSE effective for adults? I'm 24 right now and considering doing this...I've read online that only surgical actions are effective in adults

We’re you able to get any type of compensation after any failed attempts? Just had a failed MSE, a bunch of
wasted money, and now I’m regretful that I didn’t just do the double jaw surgery in the first place

Broooo you live in Massachusetts?? I live on the borderline of Connecticut, 30 minutes from Worcester, Massachusetts!! WHAT DOCTOR DID YOU USE I BEEN TRYING TO FIND ONE??!

Double jaw surgery splits the maxilla

I just had double jaw advancement for my sleep apnea last month. Do you think I could do MSE after? Maybe in like 6-12 months when bone heals?

I just kinda am thinking of doing only jaw surgery because then ild have todo something with the mandible also and it seems easier to just do double jaw surgeries

EASE offered by Dr. Kasey Li also expands nasal floor

maxillary expansion will not widen the cheekbones!! That's ridiculous. The level of cut is below the cheekbones, so they are not carried along for the ride.

Wow, Ron looks 12 years old here, so cute!

I’m so confused. I’ve been told by a professional who revises ties mse works or even just a regular shwartz expander. Yet also read to avoid all toothborne..so do I avoid going to an ortho who doesn’t offer mse?

also it seems many say to not do surgery unless really necessary and to test for apnea. I see you can get expansion from surgery too. So wouldn’t DJS be best to do over mse alone?

I had a mse for about a year and 5 years of braces, about to get djs

I have tmj now beacasue of mse

My question is if you expand the maxilla with MSE, then what happens with the bottom teeth? Won’t they be left more narrow than the top? How to expand the bottom as well to ensure a proper fitting bite?

I got severe asymmetrical face help