Joni Patry on Dispositors in Vedic Astrology

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Cancer Lagna > Moon in Aries > Mars in Pisces > Jupiter in Leo > Sun in Taurus > Venus in Taurus
Is venus my final dispositor? Im kinda confused because mercury  in taurus and saturn is cap is not apart of the chain

1.) Cancer Ascendant > Moon in Gemini 12th > Mercury in Virgo 3rd
2.) Sun in Virgo 3rd > Mercury in Virgo 3rd
3.) Neptune in Sagittarius 6th > Jupiter in Scorpio 5th > Mars/Rahu in Libra 4th > Venus in Virgo 3rd > Mercury in Virgo 3rd
4.) Ketu in Aries 10th > Mars/Rahu in Libra 4th > Venus in Virgo 3rd > Mercury in Virgo 3rd
5.) Uranus in Capricorn 7th >< Saturn in Aquarius 8th
6.) Neptune in Sagittarius 6th > Jupiter in Scorpio 5th > Pluto in Scorpio 5th

So only my final dispositor matters, not the other two? (Saturn in Aquarius and Pluto in Scorpio)
And is it necessary to consider my 2nd, 3rd and 4th chains as well? Or is the final dispositor chain that starts with my Ascendant the only final dispositor chain to consider as having importance? Do all those planets involved in the chain have more importance, due to them being apart of the chain of the final dispositor?

I am thinking that the planets involved in your final dispositor chain have more importance (or prominence) than the planets that are not involved in that chain...

Some real gems here. Great insights. Thanks for this Kapiel.

Should we consider Neptune in the chart?

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I've been studying astrology for quite a few months now, and have included this channel in my learning process, but get confused when I hear Vedic terms. It seems a lot more complicated, and I'm not sure if I should continue with the Vedic astrology integration, or if I should just master one or the other first?

I was just wondering, how things will work, if three planets are ruling each other. Say suppose , venus in 1st house of Aquarius, mars in 4th house of Taurus and Saturn in 10th house of Scorpio.

Thanks for some great interpretations! I have Mercury as the Grand Dispositor placed in the 11th house in Virgo with Sun & Rahu - what does this indicate? 

Yes correct...U r the KING of astrology Kapiel...u r the STEVE JOBS of Vedic astrology

Tropical vs Sidereal is a $million question yet nobody knows for sure which is the accurate one. so approximately 50% of all  astrologers are wrong yet they keep selling books and readings lol problem is that they even convinced themselves they are right. Worst part is they don't keep it to themselves and are misleading others with their readings. And if you are going to say that “I predicted this and that”, just remember that even a crooked gun hits the target sometimes! Cheers. 

Fabulous lesson Joni, many thanks!

Joni is saying 8th is house of death...3 and 8 are the exact opposite. The 12th from these are 2 and 7 and they are the maraka houses.

As the charts are not visible clearly it wd help if birth details are given too

Hi KRS Channel:

Why don't you use South Indian chart style?  

It is simple to see and visualize the aspects and positions of the planets in a South Indian chart as you explain.  The North Indian diamond chart just gives us one more confusion over the complex nature of this science.  You may not feel it since you are used to it.

Or give us the date of birth, time and place of the sample charts and we can launch  our own chart as you explain. The purpose of your video is to educate people in the first place anyway.

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What is the difference between Kala software and the vedic astrology report I got from Kapiel sir, why they are different. They simply change my lagna and my moon sign. And different conjunctions of planet , will somebody explain.

So stupid of me to not have seen this before.. ! Most interesting..

only 7 lords in 12 houses, 5*2  & 2*1 Each.
if one planet is the final dispositor for rest of the grahas means.  How will be the individual Maha dasha of Each grahas

I like this it answered a question I had in mind about the paravatana yoga in a chart. Have a paravatana yoga between Saturn and Mercury. Libra LG Mercury in 5th with Venus Sun Jup exchanging with refro Saturn in 12th. Saturn final sign dispositor and Venus the final dispositor at the nakshatra level. Making the point that if one of the planets in the yoga are activated that it automatically activates the other is interesting. I also heard that being in the present Mahadasha of Venus Venus in Aq that it will activate the other planets that it is conjunct with the house that it aspects and its own signs. If that is the case most of the planets in my chart are activated and will be for the remainder of the Mahadasha. Another important point you made in your video on paravatan yoga is that they actually look after the sign they are in even if they are natural enemies. Something I had not understood. I had been taught simply that they acted like they were in their own signs, but in reality that is ambigious, until one clarifies that they actually serve theinterests of the sign they are in.  Your videos are a great service to humanity, I know you will be very blessed through your efforts. cheers!

Hmm, so unfair that people with a lot of money have acces to so many things, like this person can have so many readings from joni. Wich are really expensive for every astrologer in general. But on the other hand, it is also being teached for people that can afford it and I like to learn it. I am writing this all down! My final dispositers are first: venus in taurus in 4th house. The rest all falls back on mercury in the 5th house gemini.

@JoniPatry#Astrology gets deep and complex, but to fathom it helps us to know our cosmic connectivity. @Peta_de_Aztlan:

If a planet in in its exaltation sign but the dispositor is debilitated? The planet is going to give good or bad results?

So many people think that Vedic astrology is so much more difficult than western. I feel the opposite is true. I literally just started to research Vedic because of a video of Joni. I bought a couple books and learning a lot. I just purchased Joni's books and can't wait to dive into them. I started with western astrology and it did not come easy. But Vedic astrology is actually clicking with me. I am a Virgo rising with Ketu in and Jupiter in my 1st house. Thanks Joni for inspiring to start my studies again after giving up on western years ago. I just stuck with the Tarot. I am falling in love with Vedic astrology. Jennifer

It would not be an exaggeration if I say that Kapiel Raaj is Brain Greene of Tyson deGrasse of Vedic Astrology. Vedic astrology made plain, simple & lucid, understandable to the layman.

What if there is not a final dispositer; the lordship just keeps going around and around?

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I have one final dispositor in my birth chart! I’m Cancer ascendant with Jupiter in the sixth house as the final dispositor.. this video was so cool, thank you KRS and Joni 🙂

Shes so smart

I'm trying to figure out how strong my Venus would be in Taurus in the 12th house that is ruled by Pisces. Would Taurus (Venus) increase my Venus's strength? Or would Pisces delude it? So would my Venus and Moon in the 12th act like a Pisces instead of a Taurean?

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Hey Kapeil,
So what wud b the final point if 3 planets r sitting in each other's house. Like jupiter in Aquarius - Saturn in Scorpio - Mars in sagittarius Asc in Natal Chart. Same situation is in current Transit - jupiter in scorpio - saturn in sagittarius Asc - Mars in Aquarius. Also does this mean that jupiter will activate all three houses? Please suggest..

I began my study of vedic astrology after I received a reading from a local astrologer that I happened to meet through a "chance event!" I was so impressed by his astrological interpretation of my horoscope that I decided to learn this fantastic system a.s.a.p! I purchased 4 or 5 books on the subject and I went to work on an intense cycle of study. I was so concentrated on learning vedic astrology that I was having dreams about horoscopes in my sleep!

Great interview! I truly enjoyed it... only wish the charts were more focused :( other than that very informative :)

wow love the books, gonna need to read them.

As soon as Joni showed her green shirt her eyes turned green wow how amazing!

It was a great lesson...really appreciate.

My two faves together. I hope you do another one soon!

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This is incredible knowledge. Thanks Joni and Kapiel. Recently my close relative’s transitting moon and neptune passed over his natal ketu and moon in the 7 th house and he passed away. If i know this in advance i would have done something better. But his passing away was also indicated by his dasha system.

Joni - I love all your You Tube explanations on different events and I was wondering if you could elaborate on Lebanon and Israel. A friend of mine is very concerned about them as she has been following their politics and is really concerned.

Every single planet in my chart traces back to my moon. What the hell...

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I have learned so much from both of you individually and it’s so great to see that you two together. You are doing so much to share Vedic astrology with the world. Thank you so much. Many blessings to you two 🙏🏽💕

You both are wonderful teachers of vedic astrology, thank you for this lesson