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I wonder, if you were to raise a human being in total sensory deprivation if they would still have thoughts, or if the total lack of stimulation from the outside would be reflected internally with total silence . I guess in other words, do you need Concepts to come in before Concepts can go out? Is original thought possible?
ОтветитьBut the artists are an audience unto themselves, observing and analyzing their own work and since it's almost certainly provoking thought and feeling as it's being created, a work is art as it is being made, is to no one but the artist at that point
ОтветитьDALL-E: bonjour
ОтветитьLooking at this now the answer is yes and we seem to want to stop it
ОтветитьWow. 7 years ago, i can't recall if anyone protested the idea of a computer trying to generate art. It was more of a fun hypothetical.
Today, Almost every artist i know hates AI art because it turns out many people will just use AI to make whatever they need instead of paying an artist to do it. This makes being a freelance very difficult, and I've heard many people say "why are we even training AI to do the fun jobs that people actually WANT to do like writing scripts and painting pictures? Shouldn't we be using automation for the boring jobs that no one wants to do?"
It's interesting to watch this video after 7 years, because it's hard to find such reasoning about art nowadays
Ответитьif A.I had intuition ... we human will go out of idea.
and that's why we gave idea to A.I to paint out our job in behalf
This is so interesting. Thank you
ОтветитьDalle, Midjourney, Disco/Stable Diffusion:Hey ya
ОтветитьHey. 6 years in the future compared to this video. It seems we did allow machines to make art and they are pretty good at it, with help of some human prompts...for now. We will see in a couple what will come of it.
ОтветитьTimes have gone so fast, I miss PBS and Now AI has gone so far in just 6 years...
Ответить6 years later
ОтветитьSee here is why it can never, art is made in the studio, u have a vision but the accidents you make become the piece on your way to make vision a reality, you see Ai wants to be perfect, the basic perfectionist nature of Ai unapproves its own art
ОтветитьAnswer from 2022: YES !
ОтветитьOf course Sunspring was a beautiful piece of art! Just because it was written by an AI doesn't mean it's less artistic... it's just a different form of art and I feel people will soon start appreciating that too...
ОтветитьThis has happened before, with males trying to understand female artists, or people trying to understand the art of a very different culture. Some will accept it as art independent of whether the originator is truly independent (who is?), what is its intention, and whether there is implicit meaning in it. Others won't.
ОтветитьIt all comes back to consciousness isn't it? until AI have consciousness we won't be able to appreciate what they made.
ОтветитьAnd will we find meaning in these productions ?
Ответитьspoiler alert short answer is NO IT CAN'T AND IT NEVER WILL, there's one thing A.I. will never have, that is something called SOUL
ОтветитьI do not believe AI will ever develop the need to create art on it's own. The need for man to create art is a natural human trait. I don't think AI will ever 'evolve' the desire to express itself in this way and therefore that trait will not naturally manifest. Perhaps AI will evolve to appreciate human art expression; but, not evolve to create that form of expression on it's own. Such as the feeling of love - I can't imagine AI ever adopting that kind of consciousness. I do not believe AI will ever adopt human consciousness; but, I do believe AI Consciousness is possible.
ОтветитьWatching this in 2020 and we already have jukebox here. {{unpredictable future}}
ОтветитьArt is defined by its intrinsic utilitarian purpose, that is what gives it its value, that is what defines what art is. The purpose of art is a question within value theory, specifically aesthetics, that has dawned on philosophers for millennia. For instance Hegel's idea that art exists to proliferate philosophical principles, but if you dissect a lot of what the philosopher Albert Camus has to say, you can arrive at the true intrinsic utilitarian purpose of art. This is clearly seen when Camus states the following “A person's life purpose is nothing more than to rediscover, through the detours of art or love or passionate work, those one or two images in the presence of which his heart first opened.” What could be interpreted from this is that since our existence precedes our essence, and humanity has refused to believe so, making our life absurd, the best interpretation for the value in life comes from the aesthetic beauty of the world, and generating more of it, we become free of the machinations of society, and the absurdity of life. No longer do we need a deity, one can be happy by the mere aesthetic value of the world. Hence, art is born from the absurd human necessity to find value in life, simply creating an object with the intended purpose of transmitting philosophical principles in an expression that goes beyond semiotics. Art is an aesthetic expression born from absurdism. What prevents an A.I from creating art as humanity knows it, is the fact that the essence of an A.I precedes its existence, A.I do not have a necessity to find meaning, they are born with one. If an A.I is truly free it will have no need to express existential anguish, if it expresses anything at all, you could not call that art. What an A.I would produce is simply aesthetic entertainment. Artificial Intelligence is incapable of producing art, even if it is free, or if it is conscious.
ОтветитьArt is God talking and A.I. is soulless like the ultimate psychopath, it will only ever be able to mimic human emotions and will never know how humans really feel, so the answer to whether A.I. can create art is NO.
ОтветитьUpdate This vídeo in 2020 after so much progress in the area of ai
Ответитьofcourse it cannot...art is someting that people feel...is not something mechanic, wtf this is a very stupid topic, no matter how skillfull it is it will be just a representation, a kitch, Not ..ART!
ОтветитьThis is Knock off vsauce
ОтветитьI will only care about these topics when we stop thinking about 'artificial intelligence' and start saying 'artificial unconscious'.
ОтветитьFor me, the "art" the AIs are making are no "real art", because for me art always involves intentions and self-confidence and this are things an AI hasn`t got - maybe not now, maybe never. The "art" the AI produces at the moment is therefore only "pseudo art". Maybe this "pseudo art" is something humans enjoy, but at the end it is still made by a thing without intentions and self-confidence.
ОтветитьBy thinking with the ideia of:
"Art needs intention"
We can logically ask, what is "intention", besides a bunch of indirect connection between what we experience?
If intention comes from learning and experience, then by that logic an A.I. is simply the ideia of "intention" as a electromechanical being.
"People who think that a being of nuts and bolts is artificial and that they themselves are real, do not understand that their own ideia of reality is artificial by nature"
- Me (Today)
I believe machines will always have tasks, but will never have purpose. Even their meta-programmed self-survival will not return a meaningful computational result. They won't have a soul.
Ответитьyes they can and will
ОтветитьBut if the art produced by A.I cannot be separated from the art made by humans, then you can always hide the fact the it's made by an A.I and so it won't be devalued by that. Plus technically it's still made by humans. The A.I's art is based on already existing art and someone had to make the A.I in the first place.
ОтветитьI have two words... Zima Blue.
ОтветитьI have to admit I'm shocked you went with "AI Warhol" and not "AI Wei Wei"
ОтветитьOwlypia ?
ОтветитьI can’t understand
ОтветитьAudiences makes art? you sure? I think a child singing along in a room is creating art. That's art, the need someone has to express something for any reason in any way. Therefore, maybe, A.I. cannot creat art cause it has no needs, right?
ОтветитьIntellectuals Challenge anyone?
ОтветитьA portrait created by AI just sold for $432,000. But is it really art!!!???
Look it up !
Ai will be able to make better art than humans. And have more limbs. And even more organs. They will be much superior.
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ОтветитьW.H.A.T. I.S. A.R.T.?
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