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The thing you forgot to talk about the giant could hold a pavise style shield and protect moving infantry that are attacking a castle. Now imagine the shield has a staircase so you could allow infantry to climb the stair will the giant holds the shield and punches enemy on top of the wall.
ОтветитьWith the sling too the sheer size of a giant sling opens the possibility for a style of grape shot of slightly larger than normal (human sized) sling ammo. The devastation that could be wrought over a wide area with that
ОтветитьIf one large rock in a sling does significant damage to a focused area; what about a sling pouch filled with smaller rocks?
ОтветитьYou don't understand how big of a giant we are dealing with here. The world is a flat disk being heald up on the backs of four elephants, who are standing on the back of a giant sea turtle...that is resting on the giant's eyelash! - Nov 2023
ОтветитьTake a look at Ogryns from warhammer. they use giant shields knifes, and basically two Browning 1919's stacked on top of each other as a heavy Stubba!
ОтветитьI mean, isn't slashing damage just really really really tiny bludgeoning damage anyway? A sword is truly just a skinny club.
ОтветитьHuge fan of osp first time I heard of it is from here
Ответитьwhat happens when the Giants start carrying a shadiveristy fairy armory on their back?
ОтветитьThis made me think of Terry Pratchett, where the troll who worked on the police force carried a siege ballista that he would cock with one hand, with a hundred arrows strapped into a bundle loaded. Not accurate but fantastic for crowd control
ОтветитьAs soon as blunt weapons were mentioned i thought of smough
ОтветитьA giant in Asoiaf is as strong as 12 men.
ОтветитьJust came here to dispute the square cube thing a bit. Andrzej Stanaszek is a world record holding powelifter who is 4’0” 114lbs. Robert Wadlow was the worlds tallest man at 8’11” & his recorded weight was 439. According to the square cube “law” he should have weighed over 900lbs.
I’m not a math guy, but I’ve done a bunch of Google-fu researching little people & NBA big men & I can tell you the numbers don’t scale according to square cube.
Would this logic still apply to giants that start at about 7feet to about 10 feet ?
ОтветитьGiants and slings... I seem to remember a sling killing a giant in some really old story
ОтветитьThere are also the types of giants that are so big they make their weapons from scavenging the civilization found around them like the gargants from warhammer age of sigmar. One of my personal favorite gargants, the kraken eater, uses a huge club made from the wreckage of a ship. I personally like the idea of giants that scavenge their weapons and armor and cobel them together with a stone age intelligence. This could be said of the giants from the movie jack the giant slayer. Their armor and weapons looks awesome like they smashed it together with whatwver materials they could find. All in all giants have become one of my absolute favorite fantasy archetypes and videos like this are a boon to my work as an artist and writer. Same with overly sarcastic productions and tale foundry. A spot on video my friend!
ОтветитьComparing elephants to giants is like comparing apples to oranges. Elephants are inherently different from humans, or humanoids in this case. All of our parts and how we move are too dissimilar to use as a comparison, however, elephants would be a great basis for understanding the limits and capabilities of those massive LOTR oliphants. The same is true for house cats and panthers.
If you want to understand the limits and capabilities of a giant, you need only utilize the square-cube law you referenced at the beginning. If a human's bone structure is enough to support their weight and movement, then a corresponding increase in size and mass for a giant would naturally increase their bone density and musculature proportionally, allowing them to move as a larger faster human.
Therefore, if a normal human is able to carry 40% of their bodyweight in a pack while hiking through the mountains, then so could a giant.
You're wrong about giants being slower than humans. I've raced a couple guys who each weighed more than four times my weight, over 800 lbs each. I ran track and field as well as cross country and these two were literally right on my heels, able to brush the back of my shirt with their fingertips.
Granted, they couldn't maintain this for more than a block because they were obviously morbidly obese, but boy could they move at the drop of a hat when they wanted to. They just usually walked and turned slowly because they could cause some real damage to themselves, others, or their environment if their 800 pound mass accidentally bumped into something or someone.
i know it's a old video but...if the giants use spike on their boots, those spikes would be "loose" so to crack on a single hit to not be stuck in the obstacle/enemy. and what about fire? if the giant use a big gambeson, being made of silk or cloth, isn't even more easy to hit such big target with flammable oil or fire arrows and burn it to crisps?
ОтветитьBeing an old D&D DM / player I've always wondered why dwarves are a bigger threat to giants than other humanoids.I realize that I have to consider that I'm talking about a fantasy game but maybe you could explain that with logic as you have here?
ОтветитьA giant could come to battle with two massive shields and have armored up legs with spiked boots. Just running around kicking and ramming everything infornt of it
Ответитьgolf club
edit i am glad that elephants dont have arms
I looked up an elephant’s weight and it is crazy, if the giants weighed 8 times as much as a human so let’s say 1,200 lbs, that would be like an eighth of an elephant. If elephants can support 8,000 lbs, and the heaviest one 24,000 lbs, I think a giant wouldn’t actually need very large legs
Ответитьfor the youtbe culture war
ОтветитьHey, fun material. Just one correction: the surface area matters as compared to volume, not as compared to height. So a giant is at a disadvantage wrt a human in terms of heat dissipation, as their volume goes up faster than their surface.
ОтветитьI will make giants that literally look like humans even if they are 400 meters tall in my fantasy. Why? Well because idgaf about scientism crap in a fantasy scenario; i wont sacrifice coolness in order to satisty autistic nerds like you.
ОтветитьIt's my understanding that slings take a lot of skill to use and a long time to master. If your giants are of the slow and stupid variety, their slingers might be powerful but inaccurate.
ОтветитьA massive war bow! You could have a crazy high poundeg to the point plate armor would be ineffective
ОтветитьThe sling is great with one big rock, yes but many human fist sized rocks would be much more deadly. It would be the equivalent of canister shot from several cannons
ОтветитьI’d probably say a hefty rock attached to a huge chain that shits going to devastate large groups
ОтветитьA very big golf club 😈😎
Ответитьcommenting on old video but the anwser is a handfull of rocks used as grapeshot. just think abt it. it would turn people to mist
ОтветитьFor giant bows, just use oversized ostrich beheading arrows
ОтветитьYou're right. The larger they are, the less they can proportionately carry. Ants, for example, can carry many times their body weight because they are so small.
ОтветитьNeat information, that said there is nothing wrong with a bit of rule of cool.
ОтветитьPush mower built like a Landmine Clearer.
ОтветитьI haven't gotten too far in the video yet, but since you bring up the square law, giants that have the same build as humans would be very prone to overheating most likely.
You see, the surface area is measured in m2, but volume by m3. I.e.: increasing the surface area by 2 means the volume increases by 2^3, so 8. That means the amount of heat producing matter increases 4x more than the surface area to lose it.
That is why growing a mouse to the size of an elephant would cause it to boil in its own skin, while the reverse would cause the elephant to freeze.
Consequently, I would expect giants to have a weakness to flame (don't we all, but more so ofc 😉) and try to defend themselves against heat based attacks.
Anyway, nothing to do with the weapons, but just coming from the video discussing how monsters & magic would affect the world setting, I wanted to throw it out there 🙃
I'm imagining giants dancing through the battlefield doing the Kazotsky kick or in a line formation like the Rockettes.
ОтветитьEven a mere medium sized tree would be fatal at the hand of Giants
Ответитьso giant triple padded armor with helmet and pointy steel boots with shield and huge golf club
Edit: or living balista
Your Monk video came out recently and reminded me why I subscribed to the channel in the first place so now I’m just going to binge the full Fantasy Re-Armed series.
ОтветитьFrom the moment i clicked i was just waiting for you to mention the scythe. Didn't dissapoint
ОтветитьCS Lewis talked about spiked boots like this. Also set the giant on fire is the counter to your padded armor. Remember There's going to be a lot more men than Giants.
Ответить"Straight, double edged blade on the end of a staff" Glaive. That is a glaive.
ОтветитьKinda late to this, but here's a thought: what if instead of one big rock, they packed their slings with loads of little rocks? It would be like medieval grapeshot.
ОтветитьI lean towards something more like a quarter staff. Trade less necessarily mass of a club for tremendous range and speed.
ОтветитьOnly a couple minutes into this video but I am sure that Shad is gonna say Steel Toe Boots.
Ответитьas a giant, for fighting I employ my Iron 9. We call it Molf. Men-Golf. Seriously a scythe is a really good idea!
ОтветитьThe massive giants would use fly-swatters. It’s what we designed to take out creatures far smaller than us, so it’d be the same for them.
Basically just think of what we use to take out creatures of a specific size smaller than us.
I know this video is old, but there is a weapon that would be better than the sling and scythe combo and that's because it combines two and that would be the kusarigama as it takes into account rotational force a giant can produce and while it might not have the range of a sling it can still be used effectively at distance.
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