Can You Beat Dinoflagellates by Raising the Tank Temperature?

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I’ve been fighting them sporadically in my 65g. Thanks for the video

I’ve had my run in three times this last time I beat it with bacteria 🦠 and Uv

Thank you for the video!

I clicked for the feather duster.

My solution was always pull out other algaes and feed reef roids. Or vibrant but I had some issues with vibrant and corals.

My tank hits 85 in the summer.

Scott your 210 is so mature 👏 😍 its a beautiful ecosystem 🤙🏽

Check out sea temperature around the world most 80 and up I run my tank 82 all the time no trouble

I battled it for about a year with my old true volume 55g (2in taller) about 10yrs ago, nobody had tried temps, but i tried 3days of total darkness, very little feeding, water changes would make it worse, tried sucking it out but it would just grow back overnight, i tried my hand at peroxide dosing 5ml per 10g it would slow but not enough to counter it i got so frustrated with it so i upped and upped to the point of just pouring peroxide in like 1/4 cup two to 3 times a day and it helped alil i tried 3 day black out with large peroxide doses and it seemed to have gone away first day back with lights baaaammm right back with a vengeance so i sold the damn thing and started over fresh lol it had defeated me :(

I was battling dino on my fluval evo 13.5 , I tried peroxide for 4 months, it slowed down but once I stopped it came back. I then stumbled on the reef breeders page on reef2reef and thought I'd try it.
I first did a 3 day blackout while raising the temp slowly from 78 to 82 over the 3 days then slowly brought the lighting back. I then did a small water change to get some detritus out. The temp raise slowed the growth alot. I then left it another 2 weeks followed by 3day blackout with another water change. Now 2 months on no dino(touch wood).

Thanks for the 411. I'm battlin' dino's too here in Wheatridge and am experiencing the same awesome, CO weather. I've sucked them out, am using UV with some success. Would love to meet up someday with ya, buddy!

Changing temp. changes multiple parameters.
A rapid drop in an immature tank can easily bring on the dinos..
as can Wrong foods, wrong skimming, wrong light , wrong supplements .....

My mindset is that ..The Dinos can live on virtually nothing , repeatedly removing trace food wastes, or blacking out the tank isn't really an ironclad solution,
Most of us see them coming back rapidly.
So , the bacteria community is not in balance (redfield ratio- wise) . They need to be out competed by plants and corals for dissolved nutrients and predated upon by other micro-life. Their big advantage is that they don't require the same ratios of nutrients that their competitors use. Its like trying to make US flags/ biomass and running out of blue, , the dinos can still make Japanese flags / biomass and so they can prevail when otherwise they would fail.

Hefty water change to begin with then ...
Change feeding to natural solids like mysis if you can , steady warm temp helps, carbon dose till you get the nitrates to five or ten , and stop.
The idea is to help the tank get in bacterial balance and then not skew it anymore.
If you get it right, the glass will stay pretty clean for a week at a time.
Just my two cents

When you bottom out nutrients in your reef, you create the perfect petri dish for dino's and cyano th THRIVE! ive learned that elevated nutrients keeps your water chemistry balanced and corals happy. my tank stays stable at 5-10 nitrates and .1 phosphates.... its taken a couple years but i think thats the other key... maturity in a tank really matters!

Quick answer no

Been able to beat Amphidinium then Ostreopsis here Scott. For ostreopsis a powerful UV seems great, dosing silica helps. For amphi and other benthic dinos it seems a multiple front method works: nano-scrubbing, some bacteria (MB7, LRE, dr tim’s waste away, vibrant), dinox helps, keeping ph above 8 helps, keeping only blue light helps, keeping phos and nit always above 0 is a must, blackout when it is near gone, removing substrate or replacing with a new one helps, peroxide helps but only when bacteria are not dosed. Cruz Arias - Elegant corals also helped a lot of people. Anyway I did not use raised temperature and I am interested on these results, so far it looks like another method that could help (for sure keeping water oxigenation may be a concern during that)... Thanks for the video Scott 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿

Hi Scott - I read the article and immediately tried it on my 15G which I think had cyano (I'm colorblind) - anyhow that tank had developed them into winter (I'm in Europe) as in summer that tank had got up over 28C (83 is 28.33)
Anyhow by the time I read the article I was using some Vibrant (low doses) for a month or so - then I took the temp up to 27.5 (maybe that's 82) - the dinos / cyan went.
So I would combo it up - On my new main system I have clams and I heard they are really sensitive to temp swings in reef tanks (funny enough because you would think being from a lagoon that they would handle it - I don't know... would rather not risk it).
I run my tank at 75.5 in the summer (I don't have a chiller or fans) and will probably run it at 78 when it gets colder (just to have some leeway)
My new tank doesn't have any issues with it - I have what I consider lowish nutrients (about 0.03PO4/5NO3) - I think because I used rock I had in water for a year with some live rock and I dose bacteria and probiotics occasionally
The other thing I did is use live Synechococcus plankton - It supposedly get's rid of it cyano all on it's own.
I think a combo is therefore probably a good idea - higher temps, bacteria and plankton.
Also on the bacteria I am going to likely use Continuum Gen-M as I heard it does the same job as Vibrant but cheaper. I also have heard of issues with Vibrant but I think they are dosing more than the recommended minimum amount - I go easy with it - I don't view it as a miracle cure just a tool ;)

Im always learning thank you for the heads up on temp im about to join my 180 with my 30 long and ive had good slow growth over the past 2 years my temp has been low at 75.0 to 75.8 and ive wondered why my growth rates haven't been more im thinking its my temp now...im going to slowly raise my temp with this new system and ill def go 🐌 speed....great video Scott 🍻 good Sir

My tank always runs 85 in the summer and my tank is thriving

I bet Dino buy raising the temperature to 83 combatted with using Dr. Tim's Re-fresh and Wasteaway .

Dosed microbacter 7 for 15 days in between Dr. Tims waste away added a 55 watt uv and also raised the temp to 82 degrees but before that did a massive clean up of rocks sand no water change they feed of the new water try to pull out as much as you can I used a fish net so I wouldn't have to change the water I did the clean up for a whole week I fought this for six months

It’s more of imbalance of nitrate to phosphate, my phosphate stayed at .5ppm for the longest time and then dropped to .03 ppm, nitrate stayed at 30ppm. And bam Dino all over the sand.

Currently having a Dino problem and have been looking up ways to treat. So this helps. And thinking about it now, I recall roughly back in August or September the temperatures outside were in the 100s (I live in Houston, Texas), and at the same time the Coil in my AC unit brokedown and needed to get replaced. So for about a week I had no AC in my house, and since I do not have a chiller on my tank as my indoor temperature is never really above 75, my tank's temp shot up to between 84 and 86 degrees before my AC got fixed. During that time, and I am only now realizing the reason for this after watching your video, I had no Dinos or Cyano and most of my corals grew new polyps/heads, including corals I had never seen even grow one new head in the year or more that I have had them. So now I am definitely going to be raising my temp from 78.5-79.5 (it fluctuates between the two depending on my AC setting, which I normally keep at 68 at night) to 82, maybe 84 degrees in order to reduce Dino and Cyano and encourage my corals to grow more.

I’m on night 1 of 84 degrees been raising slowly.

These videos feel like they are still being filmed in 2013 or 2014 its beautiful

Was wondering who you look like, then I saw David Cross in a movie yesterday.

its not green

Truth is you got bad luck that’s how it got introduced.

I am changing my heater temp on my apex right now! This stuff sucks

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