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I gotta say people not playing preservation is crazy, range limitations really aren’t that hard to play around, and the amount of Hps AND dps they pump is insane. Plus their utility is phenomenal. I think augmentation is overrated, we need less aug and more preservation!

Preservation with a ton of talents just absolutely useless. Blossoms?

Am I playing hpal wrong with this build for Hpal, how are you not pressing holy shock?

I know you do a great job in all your videos that players should play whatever they have the most fun with, but could you and other content creators please highlight "bring the player, not the class" and shove that down the throats of PUGs? XD Every spec can do 10s in the hands of a skilled player.

our holy paladin in raid has full mana the whole fight. Heroic Ovinax for reference they were doing about 1 mil hps landing first or 2nd on heals with 614 ilvl. That is kinda frustrating when other healers are struggling more with working to keep their mana in check.

I do like generating with melee as hpal, but lightsmith/AC is not a playstyle I enjoy.

For Mistweaver at Ovinax. Jade Empowerment preforme very good. The 160% from Jadefire teachings empower Jade lighting too. I used it at Ovinax and it do more healing than gust of mist :O

Ran a bunch of +8-+10 keys on my HPal yesterday, I had to drink once or twice per dungeon where previously I was never drinking.

As main Resto Shaman I'm happy with Farseer changes because I don't like totemic build for M+, it just feels to much passive and i dont get the healer shaman experience that I love to play (different story for raids, there I love totemic 😅).
Getting those little windows of burst damage + ancestral guidance gonna be fun.

Ac for paladins is terrible.

The range issues with prevoker have been really hard to deal with on some of these dungeons for me. There are so many fights that encourage a large spread if you are not super careful and its just a limitation that doesnt make sense.

The impact focusing on meta has to the community is only a negative. Please consider how it affects the player base and stop teaching people this is what matters. There are much better things to focus on that would actually inspire the community, rather than promoting classes to hate each other.

"blizzard is targeting a build that's not as popular, not as good"
Hello from FDKs. Obliterate builds got 100->80% nerf on GA procs, meanwhile Breath is living the dream

AC lightsmith feels good and fun. Only the design could be better

- Crit only for AOE healing is a bit gambeling

- Pala execute is soooo weak its almost never worth pressing

I'm still waiting for holy priest changes.... Their single target healing is strong, and I like that, but thats all they got going for them. I understand that if they buffed their AoE spells then that might make them monsters and would have to nerf single target, which would destroy them in m+, so thats not an option. So I'm hoping that they just invent more choice nodes, kinda like Lightweaver/Lightwell. Let me choose single target for dungeon and AoE for raid. Maybe like, choose Trail of Light, OR, 40% PoH healing or something like that. Maybe to start they buff some of the numbers on existing talents tho, like sanctify buffing PoH by 30-40% instead of 15%, and Benediction going to 40% instead of 12% to actually make use of the 6% healing amp on Renew targets. Theres synergies there but the numbers are piss poor that it doesnt matter.
As for m+ idk what they could do to help holy out. The singletarget and spot healing is strong and a good start, but they dont have anything for heavy group damage that happens quickly. Healing 3 people per cast of Heal/Flash Heal is nice for general damage going out but Piety isnt available enough for boss things. Maybe if they just really buffed PoM that would help with both raid and m+ but /shrug idk

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The state of healers is the same as our healthcare professionals

I said this like 2 months ago but everyone was rsham crazy and had no vision.

MW still punished for playing the spec well... Absolutely trashcan design.

Love your insight. Always feel more informed after these kinds of videos from you!

That word you were searching for when speaking about the mastery was "comparable" not "comparative"

I feel like the removal of flourish in m+ really hit druids hard. Considering the amount of ramp required for a lot of those encounters, it feels really unsatisfying to heal people with regrowth for the most part.

Certainly isn't the completely ignored Holy Priest.

NERF PALLIES. Literally in mythic raid, our pallies are top heals with LITERALLY full mana at the end of every fight. Not an exaggeration, literally 100% mana while me as a holy priest is OOM. How is mana usage this unbalanced?

I've been desperately wanting to play MW. I finally leveled mine yesterday exclusively during time walking - and Fistweaving felt great

lightsmith is so much more fun than herald

This tier just doesn't feel good. Healing is extremely ping-pong and healthbars move too fast.

Make holy priest great!! We need changes better defensives a good kick to be able to cleanse more poisons. And a good mobility skill that is not wheel chair like angelic feather where can I push this

Fuck it, I'll be the one trick pony holy priest of the season... Why should I play something else I don't enjoy?

I wish content creators to be more honest regards Rdruid situation, Blizz is doing such a terrible job with such an amazing class. While I know the class is perfect capable, having HoTs that almost not heal and are there just multiplying regrowth via mastery is one of the worst iteration this class ever had. I was done with my Rdruid around 9s, because it makes no sense to me to be using so many globals just to do what others healers do in one GCD. Feels terrible, unrewarding. Not to mention the lack of CDs on M+, since it makes no sense to pick the nerfed Flourish and the meme Tranq (that is a 3 min CD so weak that people don't even spent 1 talent point to get it)...

"Close to heart wasn't a fun mechanic to play around so they remove it".
Ok but have you seen Hpal mastery?

MW are now on the top of the meters for raid healing according to logs since the changes which doesnt really make any sense considering most of the changes are fist weaving related and we dont fist weave in raid outside of some situations.

MW monk changes are amazing especially for raids - the biggest and best change is being able to play on range. Only psychopaths want to play in melee in raids (no wonder people don't play monk, because healing in melee gameplay just sucks).

Well as a long-time Mistweaver and Fistweaver when the patch dropped I didn't move out of Dorn and the PvP area for about an hour at least. Read abilities, test, read again, change things up, test. All the tourist Mw's are loving it because there's now a no brainer DPS/HPS crusher with Jade Lightning and they're all dabbling in it. Here's the difference, pre patch about 10% of Mw's were tuned into the double knockback Jade Lightning pvp talent. No Mw knocked me off the cliff at Lumbermill because none of them were using it and it must have been a teaching and shocker moment and by the end of the BG? NOT coming anywhere near you because they dare not plus Transcendence transfer up. No idea how many I forced off to fall and die but it was a lot. Only in video have I seen another Mw use this to position a player and knock him back into a corner and then drop RoP to trap him and while he bounces off wall and spell is helpless and can be burned down. That's what we lost for a Sith Lord style "unlimited power and mad cackle moment" on cooldown, boring, even if my HK's and killing blows have gone vertical on a graph.

I would make changes to resto druids. I feel like resto druids should rely on hot ticks vs outright healing. I also feel like the hero talents for resto are meh. Regrowth is nice, but relying on it is meh. Personally, I would love to see photosynthesis and germination baseline and then more unique talents that replace them. I know that that sounds a bit strong but when I think about how resto druids should heal naturally, those talents feel like they should naturally be part of the healing style.

I would also make changes to the hero-talents. Both are really meh ihmo. I have never enjoyed kitty weaving and wild stalker just doesn't appeal to me However, I think that wildstalker may have a more engaging gameplay situation vs keeper of the grove because summoning a bunch of trees doesn't really feel heroic. I love the trees... but I don't LOVE the trees. I wish that at least of of the hero talents put an emphasis on your output and your ability vs relying on passive mechanics.

I would also maybe change the way mastery works. It's good on paper but it takes a lot of setup and is only really optimized for 5 man content. It also doesn't really help with resto druid weakness which is spike damage. This wouldn't be an issue but everything is spike damage these days. Even the current patch that was going to "smooth" damage intake is nothing but spike damage. Although, if the healing profile was adjusted then maybe its current form would be ok.

Been maining resto shaman since cata... please don't nerf us. It's been so long since we've been in such a good state. Our utility has always been there, don't nerf it blizzard... if u need to up hps of other heals fine, just don't gut our utility ❤

Resto shamans have everything except fun gameplay. Really sucks that the meta is so singular

Nerfing will just make people quit playing WoW as they enjoyed their classes, imagine gearing up and doing the best you could with the class and in the end people stop inviting you because you become a C tier class. Buff the rest of the specs..

monk is fine in a good hand

Week 7 of S1; resto shaman still 72% of all healers in 12+ keys. Great healer balance this tier 💩

I do not like all the pushing of the heals to heal through DPS overall.

i dont even run acid rain anymore. im running the new build in totemic that utilizes the talet where 2 chain heals increases riptide by 150 percent and have been loving it.

m+ is still a living hell for a healer, except u play resto shaman. So sad.

2 chested a 10 NW last night in a pug on my R Shaman. I used to hate pugs, but sometimes you get lucky in m+

state of healers is insane the minmaxing/still using websites to force progression is insane why can't we go back to Simpler Gameplay mechanics for anything under Mythic...I get Classics a Substitute for Simpler Times but again...the amount of complexity the current game has gotten with mechanics, playing a specific way, and following sites to progress is destroying this game going forward and has been for awhile.

so basically no matter what changes healers get the core still will be the same over complex because everything else is.

Currently running Totemic, but gotta try Farseer sometime soon.

Lightsmith AC made me switch from Evo to HPal. Love it

Im 100% sure, that the priest dev has played to many CoT 😅 that fukn big poison bug at the stairs, when it dies you have no mobs to damage and everyone ticking like hell. Thats where i really like the flash heal and radiance buffs, to keep ppl up even without doing damage and if i read the patch notes right, that was blizzards intention.

I enjoy being a melee dps healer , i used to play a lot of fistweaving monk and i love the fact that i can heal without hard casting heals

Which healer do you think needs changes/buffs? 🤔