The Disastrous Campaign of Star Wars: Battlefront II - 8 Years Later

Hell yeah I was just playing this game earlier today, looking forward to this one

I dont even need to wacth this to know its gonna be a absolute banger, keep up the incredible work Lazerzz, bc we all love it 😀

“Star Wars doesn’t have a lot of good games” someone never played the Lego Star Wars games

I had fun with the battlefront 2 campaign but there were things that didn’t grab me. For example, in that battle of Jakku. That was supposed to be the last stand of the empire in the Disney lore but we don’t see the classic 3 characters(Luke Han & Leia) in that battle(or at least let us play as them in that fight). They are supposed to be the tip of the spear for the New Republic but we barely see them in this game, the recent movies, and in the Disney+ shows. That all being said, I never get tired of that Luke Skywalker level. Now and then I mess around with that level. It’s a shame that we don’t have more games surrounding this legendary character.

This game was something else seriously, at first I know I bought into it and got my crystals back in the day for the crates. But when it got fixed and they added a ton of clone wars stuff, is crazy and never wanted it to end. And was very sad to hear it because it was when I got back into it

Games like battlefront should copy the arkham series style of structure. Idk what this means but in my head the arkham style is perfect.

James I must confess, it’s been about a decade & I was the Tai Lopez account who started a relationship with you on Facebook that day 📚

Kotor 1 and 2 are the only Star Wars games I need. I played Battlefront 2 and enjoyed it for about a week.

Cant believe they let us play as Luke to only.....kill bugs

If people really want an Empire side of the story, Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison, Crimson Empire Saga, Darth Vader: The Rise of Darth Vader are primary examples

No way you disrespect the GOAT classic BF2 like that. It may not be a looker, but it’s the real best Battlefront experience!… Good video though.

This game being written by the same guy who wrote Spec Ops The Line is part of the reason I don't think that game is nearly as smart as so many make it out to be

just finished andor season 2 and now I see this video, guess I'm not done watching star wars yet today

So palpatine was obsessed with the idea of living forever so his cloning endeavors was not a contingency plan but a happy accident that just happened to work out for him since he was already looking into ways to live forever

"because it needs to feel like a rollercoaster ride somewhat, sorry Martin"

I almost spat out my drink 🤣

Operation: Cinder isn’t supposed to be some strategic backup plan to actually win the war. It’s a failsafe protocol implemented by a man who was so evil and so petty with the mindset basically being “If I can’t have it, no one can.” Palpatine saw it as punishment to any and all who contributed to his supposed death, “How dare you allow for this to happen. If you can’t even prevent your Emperor from dying, then you don’t deserve to continue without me.”

Guess I’m one of those comic nerds

Rogue One: "Rebellions are built on hope."
BFII: "Rebellions are built on hate." Guys, we are so f*&^in' smart.

Wait? There was a second campaign? 0.0

Gonna need a trigger warning for that haunting deepfake Luke Skywalker lol 🤢

I'm pretty sure this campaign was written by Mitch Dyer who was a former reviewer and editorial at IGN.
I remember this being pretty naff when I first played it, especially how forced and sudden the "love story" between Iden and Del was.

hooooly! i just finished the ac2 video today so this is a treat!

Alvin and the chipmunks video essay better not be a lie 😢 Alvin has such depth as a chipmunk

Nah g play the campaign dlc

Andor really spoiled us. I hope we get more mature star wars content in the future since andor is over now

Revenge of the Sith, Star Wars Battlefront 2 2005, the first The Force Unleashed, and the Lego Star Wars games are some more Star Wars games that are great. Didn’t play the Original Battlefront and still have yet to play Republic Commando but players love both of these games as well so they deserve a shout out as well.

With every passing year it really feels more and more like Dice peaked with the Bad Company duology as far as their campaign storytelling goes. Battlefield 4 was alright but a bit on the generic and maybe drawn out side. Everything else... Yeah

A 10h long expedition 33 video when?😅

I actually kind of liked the story in SWBII, it's honestly the most redeemable part of that game. It's certainly not without issue and the epilogue is weak as hell, but the rest kind of works for the setting.

When you compare the offline content of battlefront 2 2017 with that of battlefront 2 2005 there is no contest. In bf2 05 you can play almost every game mode and every map offline against bots and in local splitscreen multiplayer (both cooperative and competitive). The campaign which is simple but has a far better story than that of bf2 17 tells an engaging story of how the clones became the first storm troopers and how war can start off with good intentions but grow to lose all sense of morality and it is entirely playable in local splitscreen multiplayer. Add onto that Galactic Conquest which allows you to strategically take over the galaxy by playing successive battles against bots and with or against another player in splitscreen multiplayer. Needless to say as someone who does not enjoy online multiplayer both EA Battlefront games have a severe lack of content for someone who put thousands of hours into the originals on PS2.

Dissing people like SW theory and nerdrotic just shows you’re not a real fan

I'm a book nerd so I've firmly planted my heels in on the idea that the EU stories at the very least made sense before Disney came in with idiot writers. The explanation for how the average joe supported the empire post-Death Star is that they literally didn't know about it. It was a secret project and only seen by the top-level Imperial brass and the Rebellion, who were propagandized into terrorists. There are good stories to be told in Star Wars but they haven't managed to find anyone capable of doing so.

I loved the campaign, but I read the comics. Everything from incredible runs to the atrocious. 😂

The battle droid angle can't work post-2008. In order to both make the droids completely non-threatening so no clones are ever in danger and also turn them into comic relief for the kids, the writers were forced to make them astronomically stupid and also highly diverse and inconsistent since they can only get up to goofy hijinks when they're not getting instantly mowed down. In other words, they're individualistic because they're useless when the writers want the good guys to win and they're funny when the writers want to take a break from showing the good guys winning all the time. You can't have it both ways, so they have to be destroyed because they're so pitiful before the contradiction becomes apparent. Apparently the story group has dictated that all future portrayals be based on this show since they're now portrayed the same way across all media, so they're untenable as primary protagonists

Ideologically the CIS is a nonexistent faction. It was manufactured in a vacuum by targeted incidents against systems that were strategically positioned to be eligible for Republic aid, but too remote for it to arrive in time before the issue became exacerbated. Take the Halcyon hostage crisis for example. It was centered around the issue of self-governance, but no one in the actual Halcyon government formed the opposition. Instead some secessionist terror organization rose up out of nowhere and kidnapped several high-ranking government officials, making ridiculous demands for Halcyon to cut ties to it's Republic membership. Because of it's remote location, the Senate first attempted to negotiate via holo-conference, but that just made things worse. It was never confirmed, but this has Sith manipulation fingerprints all over it. The proxy belligerents were an unknown quantity, a convenient threat to an otherwise stable member world. Their ideology would have become mainstream headlines in the core worlds, creating the illusion that some people actually think Halcyon wants to secede. It's like buying a bunch of Twitter bots to kickstart a movement nobody cares about. Someone somewhere will misinterpret the story and think Halcyon is the victim, and the moment people start actually thinking that, the moment it becomes the de facto truth and jumps from manufactured conflict to real, thus willing the impossible into being. And finally, they were suspiciously well-funded, with the ability to completely disable global positioning satellites to conceal their location. Random terror groups don't get that kind of technology on their own. The CIS proper were also no stranger to using underhanded tactics. In order to manipulate Rhodia into joining they didn't just march battle droids into the capital and hold everyone up, because Rhodia was already reliant on the Trade Federation for supply shipping. So they just stopped making deliveries and sponsored pirate attacks on any independent shipments coming in to starve them out, leading to their representative Onaconda Farr to become so desperate he turned on his friend Padme and attempted to capture her for the CIS without them hardly lifting a finger

If we're forced to work within the bounds of Canon, the accepted narrative is that Count Dooku is responsible for both rallying disenfranchised worlds and creating the GAR for them to fight. So we should play as some kind of proxy group with a built-in ideology about the future of our system who Dooku contacts with the promise of "helping." He'll provide us with extensive resources for our guerilla raids to have a tangible impact and advise us on valuable targets, only to reveal by the end that we've played right into his hand. Instead of enacting meaningful change, our system turns into a giant battle droid factory to support his war effort and he shows up at the end to clean house, climaxing in a forced loss where you die by shooting at him and getting deflected or you die by not shooting at him and getting sliced in half. The result according to the rest of the galaxy is that our system abruptly turned on the Republic for no reason, and the only ones who know the real story are dead. The themes to explore here are high level political machinations that exploit idealists and the control of information as a warfighting tool. The CIS is supposed to be politically complex like Andor, it's just never reached it's narrative potential

So... apparently I'm not subscribed. I had no idea.
Glad I get to rectify that on a brand new video!