HEATED DEBATE ON THE FUTURE & PRESENT OF THE CALGARY FLAMES | FN Barn Burner

Let the Flames keep pushing for the playoffs!! Conroy can add a player or two just dont salvage the future.. This is what id do.. I would trade up for Michael Misa!! You have two later first rd picks and you can give a pick in 2026.. Youll all think im crazy but why not!! You would have your number 1 center at 18 years old!! His brother is already in the organization and he plays with Zayne Parekh!! Your future power play everything right there fuck it!! Pull the trigger you have Wolf and with Wolf theres no number 1 pick or top 10 for that matter!! Get Michael Misa !!! Seriously let Schafer go nunber one then make a trade with whoever selects number 2!!

Again, Pinder is right. I want to win a cup, they’ve won 2 rounds in 20 years. Clearly the scrape in approach isn’t working.

Listen, I know Pinder can be a bit much sometimes. But the other two are pricks to him every segment. Get rid of him they don't even seem like they like him. Dean and Rhett are real good at shitting on Pinder but horseshit at coming up with their own takes. "What are you gonna do Deannn!!" Jeeesus

Unless the Flames can guarantee me the first overall no thanks. Pinder is clueless. Add something. The guys have played and deserve a present. Play hard almost evernight and the veterans are showing the way. Some success now for Coronato Zary Bahl Wolf is huge. In the nhl you never no the next star unless McJesus. Look at just last year's picks in the OHL for Calgary. Parekh Mews Misa Battaglia. All looking great. The star might be there just a year or two away. Didn't mention Pinders boyfriend Basha who could be good to. Should Flames do nothing and get top ten for Rico Fata clone. Reward this team now.

Pinder Oilers have 5 first rounders they drafted on the roster. Nugent being 13 years ago and Bouchard 6 years ago. What is the magic windows? And remember they had the coveted 1st overall 4 Times and 2 remain. 4-8 years get real. We have no idea it's sports. What is fact is Calgary is playing well. Need scoring. Get some scoring if you can and show current young and future players winning comes first. Or let's be Chicago like Pinder loves 10 years in and 10 years out. Sounds awesome.

If the flames had average penalty kill and overtime record what would be different. What if we got a goal scorer for the powerplay. Pinder is such a downer.

Why are we so hung up on getting top 10 picks? Super star players can be found later in the draft too. Wolf changes nothing. Just because we hold a playoff spot does not make us a contender. Stick to the plan. Don't add!!

You should always try to make your team better. Not saying sacrifice the future but every day Pinder is whining thay we're not bad enough he can just suck an egg.

I used to really enjoy the banter between the three but now I've started to watch this podcast just for the guests. I don't always agree with Pinder, but I'm getting tired of seeing him essentially bullied by the other two.

Every episode now is like couples therapy with Pinder and it's so annoying

Imo, might not be popular. The team isn't lucky, Huska said it himself, they have a team that enjoys everyone in the locker. This is new this year, they have done well and I think this will grow. Sure, they might add, there are stars coming up, but the team isn't giving up and it's showing. If they make a drastic change to the dynamic now, it could cripple the chemistry and we are back to building that. Conroy is building up a talent pool, and that will help moving forward. This is a rebuild, that takes time. As a flames fan, I want a fukkin cup now 😂 but we are in a long game. This is my Ted talk, thank you for stopping by.

Trust Conroy, he’s a guy that can recognize a player when he sees one. High draft picks doesn’t guarantee anything.

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1. Turbo
2. Boomer
4. DMT Pinder

I love this. Wish my oiler convis could be this gpod

Yeah, Pinders right. 😢 😂

Everyone understands what Pinder wants and we can all agree that is the best case scenario is getting a bona fide top draft pick. Here's the problem though with that thought process, it's all wishful thinking. The best indicator of the future is past behavior and with that said, I see no reason to believe that anything will ever change in the organizations approach. This ownership group has never willingly sold things down to the bare bones in the past 20 years since the cup run so why would they start doing it now? The success they are having against expectations this year will only hurt them long term because I'm sure there will be a belief internally that they are close. Craig Conroy said DAY 1 of his tenure as GM that he wanted to a Dallas Starts quick turn around retool. Why do we conveniently forget all of that? They aren't changing and never will. This whole thing could have been blown up before last season even started. When they signed Backlund to me that said we are going to stay "competitive" which we all know means the mucky middle.

Pinder is right, it’s amazing how much the others can’t see it and just want mediocrity. You would think as a former athlete Rhett would want to win but he seems more concerned about maintaining the mushy middle.

Look at Buffalo, all the high picks in the world, no culture. Their culture is that of losing. So I agree with everybody here, we hit a gold mine in wolf. Which makes it hard to tank so now you know a full tank isn't the option. So that's who you are. Ya got pieces, you go gain more pieces. Connie's gunna have to hit on some picks and some trades and we are right there. FlamesLife my whole Life.

Pinder is articulating my pain.

Ive been a season ticket holder since 2010, but without line of sight to a cup I think I let them go next year.

No rebuild, no renewal. That's where I'm at. Doesnt matter to me if we finish 9th or waste 8 days.

Habs just lost Guhle they’re now Tank Commanders.

The thing I find most amazing about Pinder is he never seems to know what side of the argument he's on

i wish theyd just bottom out. this team is depressing

Conroy should make a trade now like nowww while we are in a playoff spot playoff hockey is fun to watch get the young guys some playoff experience. My wish is a Dman and a center men damn I miss mantha though 😢😢

Im confused by the comments that say "These guys DESERVE a shot so go pick up pieces"
Deserve? They are doing their job, and above expected, but deserve? Come on.
The fans who have been waiting since the late 80's DESERVE to see a competitive team.
1 good player.....hell 1 superstar doesnt put this team into contention. It just wont happen.
Pinder is right, keep this culture and build slowly. Dont mortgage the future for a shot to lose in the first round.
I love Boomer, but i wish just once he would give us what he thinks the team should do. All he does is pick apart what Pinder says (right or wrong).
If you think he's wrong, then tell us what you think.
Love the show, love the guys, keep it going.

Tanking is not the route nor gurantees anything , ask Buffalo. Plus wolf emerging is a game changer , you gotta build on the fly now and it can be done.

How far along is Anthony Mantha. Can he come back in March? It really hurt the Flames losing his scoring touch.

Sorry, but I do have to agree with Pinder

This is textbook gaslighting on Boomer and Warriner's part. That said, agree with Pinder, the Murray Edwards Mantra of Mediocrity needs to go.

Pinder is correct. Stop pretending like we belong in the position we are in. Wolf is not just a one year rental, we finally have a piece to build a long term future on and this time it should be done correctly and not with mid level players and management. Trade what you can and build from the ground up.

Pinder is 💯

It's like these guys aren't even listening to each other. Listen to each others points and have a conversation not just cut everyone off. Once again (not often) Pinder gives a take I actually kind of agree with.

i dont c all the hype about pareck he has already said on tv he plays the way he wants 2 play that tells me he is not a team guy and is uncoachable

Lets Start Trading For Draft Picks And Get Michael Misa & More Good Centers Some How.

5 Year Assemble & Hone

I Thought A Hockey Game Was Going To Break Out!

Just draft well. There are so many false narratives around the draft. Who are the best team in Canada today? Winnipeg. Kyle Conner was taken 17th. Hellebuyck 130th. Scheifele 7th. Lowry 67th. Morrissey 13th. Stanley 18th. Perfetti 10th. Pionk undrafted, Appleton 168th etc. etc. Not a single top 5 pick. One in the single digits. It's like the narrative around Mackinnon. Col was a good team, had bad luck (good luck?) in the 48game shortened season, came back with the same team the next year and finished 1st. Mackinnon wasn't a COL "strategy", he was a fluke.

Pinder is taxing to listen to. My question to Rhett would be what would the feeling be in the room if your team has been busting their ass to get into the playoffs, to have the GM say yeah F it, bring in the kids to get a high pick. Pinder is the most negative person. Because he puts all the faith into tanking to get to the top, he's a one-trick pony. The players and the current team will lead into the direction this needs to go. Is it remotely possible they are further ahead than he gives them credit for.

People in the comment section don't understand the difference between content and news. If they didn't have these debates and they just all agreed, there would be no entertainment.

5 points is nothing. Van just made that ground in a week.

I don't want to hear this Andersson trade BS. The team needs good D-men through the rebuild and there will be other opportunities to trade him over the next few seasons when the rest of the roster takes up more of the cap. It's insane to leave a massive void on D when he is needed by the team he is on.

Pinder is right. A change is thinking is needed.

Pinder for GM

“Deeean” is acting like a bitch when Pinder is trying to he thoughtful

Love Pinder’s fire & agree with him

Rhett the realist, the yellow-hat guy is out to lunch, imo.

Pinder was right, although he can be a bit of a know-it-all at times lol

Pinder continues to be allergic to missing. Still keeping it 💯

Pinder is 100% right, and boomer and Rhett never answered how thing group wina. If you couldn't win with Anderson as a 5 mil defender, how do you win with him as a 8.5+

I don't want flames to continue their mediocrity, sell off Kadri and Anderson and play the kids

Weren't u clowns 5 points ahead of the nucks a dysfunctional nucks team???

I don't understand this notion that Vladar will tank the team. Pinder is hilarious with the top 10 pick bit. At any rate he was wrong about the Flames doing nothing until March 1. Conroy clearly isn't a GM who waits for the deadline. Not last year and not given the arrival of Farabee and Frost.