Is The Ineos Grenadier A Four-wheel Drivers Dream? In-depth On-road & Off-road Review | Drive.com.au

I want one but with portals and CTIS, which would make it the dream off-roader. Hopefully with time the cost of portal options comes down as demand increases.

Ceramic VTX Pro window tinting on the Safari windows and the problem goes away. All the advantages of the Safari Windows and none of the problems. Love them on mine in central Queensland

Unlike other 4wds you can drive in low range 4wd "unlocked" centre diff up to 80 kmh, on hard surfaces. All 8 gears are available. Great for beach driving and for towing heavy loads.

12 months and 30,000 kms on mine and I love it.

You were surprised that in the off-road menu it said Attitude.

One meaning of Attitude is “the orientation of an aircraft or spacecraft, relative to the direction of travel”. So it’s the pitch, roll, yaw of the vehicle. Possibly including the azimuth and elevation. Yes altitude is included in the Attitude sub-menu.

So yes, they Do mean Attitude not altitude. The attitude of the vehicle - where it’s pointed.

There is a major flaw with the dual battery set up. It’s not wired as a separate auxiliary battery. They connect it to the main battery so they discharge together. And it’s an AGM not a lithium.

Not sure why at 22’11’ you have a bottle of water on the back bumper resting on the ladder though…

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Need to get used to the steering and turning radius 😅

Very good review. Nailed.

why did you not test the Diesel ? colleagues who have the Grenie say 9.4 l, incl. Mountain roads in Switzerland

In my opinion you've made an Honest and Accurate review.
I've put 8,300 miles in 8 months on my Grenadier, and I feel the truck ticks all the boxes for me and the type of vehicle I want to drive.
Is it perfect, no,, there are a few electronic niggles that are bothersome, The display/infotainment system disappoints in many areas. Keep in mind I'm comparing to my 2024 Land Rover Defender that I traded for the Ineos
But I think the concept and approach to the design of this truck is on mark for those of us who use the vehicle for what it's intended purpose.
My opinion to those wanting to own something unique, but have no plans on using it for it's intended purpose, I'd say take a pass, This is a new approach to the old school 4X4 of basic off road driving.
Even with it's faults, I truly enjoy the driving experience of this machine.

As an owner of +20,000kms - there are only two issues that remain problematic in my lived experience and cannot be fixed.
> Footwell ergonomics are quite obviously bad and get worse the longer the trip... the left footrest forces you into an uncomfortable position no matter how you set up the seating position. Some owners are ok with it, others hate it. Not a single person loves it - and they are lying if they tell you that it is better being there than not.
> Lumbar support on the Recaro is non-existent, being almost inverted backwards from a natural/relaxed spinal position. Again, some owners like it and others hate it.
Quality of vehicle is excellent, performance is excellent, off road is excellent, on road is great except for comfort of above elements, looks amazing, feels as solid as it looks, no rattles, no shaking panels over bumps!

you have a car fully specced trialmaster std...a bsic model it is not

I will definitely buy one. Seen on in green looks awesome even though I don’t go off road. The B58 engine I have in my M340i and love it. Been reliable I have 109K miles on it now.

It would be amazing if they offered a 5.3 v8 option for those who dont wanna mess with turbos

Sam, firstly, a great review.

I don't think INEOS gave you the best vehicle/options for this test.

You would have been better off with the Trialmaster - steel rims, raised intake, lockers etc. Any serious off roader would not be going for the 'Soft Pack' options, nor the petrol option. The $129k price is confusing given the wacky options specced to this vehicle.

Unlike any other 4WD on the market, you can literally take the Grenny (with the right options) and head off on a trip around Australia.

You don't need to fit after market seats, upgrade the suspension, new tyres, dual battery, power outputs, lockers etc etc. The only think you would need to consider is fuel capacity.

Well worded concise review without repeating things. With you owning an old defender you are in a good position to compare.
Disappointing to only have 3 minutes of off road review for 35 minute review for a vehicle focused for off-road driving, but well worded and summarised.
Clearance, weight, payload and wading depth definitely an issue when it was supposed to better the new defender.
Missed how when seats fold down they are not flat with the rear which makes things difficult for sliding/packing large items or sleeping.
Hopefully it will be able to be improved and good to see some more competition for off-road vehicles. Would be good to be able to lock a rear well for turning sharper when needed.
They did say they would supply technical manuals to service and maintain yourself but not sure if they have come through with this promise yet.
Would like to know more about cost and availability of spare parts. One review talked about over $1100 I think for a replacement key and spare wheel hub seemed excessive too.

If I had the coin, I would buy one of these over a Toyota 😅

Nothing special at all. An older LC with simple difflocks does the same.

Android Auto works via Bluetooth, use it everyday on my Grennie, not sure why you're saying it is wired only. I live in the city and have no issue with driving, but yes turning circle is that of any truck with a front live axle. You are spot on with the comparison, this is a budget G Wagon, but a build oriented directly at being a great over lander.

Long distance? Range? Fuel consumption off-road and on road? Fuel tank capacity sufficient? Can’t do hard tracks because of clearance, that’s fine. Then it should have range for long distance off-road driving?

Appreciate the content however this feels like it was sponsored by Grenadier due to the incongruity with the feedback from other professional reviewers.

Sam, so good to see the Ineous going thru its paces, Ronny Dahl has been showing how capable they are as well.
Curious, those side turning indicators, they lead me to believe that particular vehicle has had a GVM upgrade, maybe explaning the bright yellow coil also. As I said, curious.
Ineous did some curious things to test vehicles, in Darwin could have purchased one with all red chassis, now that stood out on an all black field master.
I'm still waiting on YOUR Tank 500 off road review.
Regards Wealie.

Great review, fair honest and on point with the balancing act Ineos pulled off to produce a unique, capable and comfortable off-roader that’s neither a jeep nor a 76.

its the utilitarian defender, Land Rover should have built , ineos put utility back into sport utility

How does the Ineos Grenadier fare on heavily corrugated roads?

I love the center overhead controls. It makes you feel like a pilot.

Nice one Sam
Question is there much access to the Zig zag stop Sam

Sorry mate, $105K lost me from viewing anymore

Havent they stopped production now, due to Recaro going bust? These things are overpriced IMHO. For something thats supposed to be basic, agricultural and 'built for purpose'.. No workshop manuals available and atill a very new platform... I cant see the value here when there are viable alternatives.

If I have 130k to burn, I would buy GWM tank 300 which is 50k, have pretty much the same offroad gears, spend 30k on mods and tunes (e.g. suspension, bullbar, batteries) which is ludicrous to modify the crap out of it. Then I will go have fun in the wild and use the rest $50k to replace whatever the part will be broken on the car in wild and for fuel.
If you buy this car, you still need to add a bit mod which cost even more. The city driving is definitely worse than tank. Apart from the interior gives you the feeling of being in an old land rover I don't see anyone would take this to offroad. What if you break the diff, you probably gonna wait months to be replaced and parts are expensive

Poor mans G. Not much to dislike in my book.

Looks better than the G also. No new ones till next year and no Recaro's as they have gone tits.

30,000 K and mine does not rattle - A great truck... Much better than my 200 series

Doesn't the G Wagon have a ladder chassis too?

They are rated recovery points on the INEOS, they are not tie down points.

Probably one of the best worded reviews on how it drives spot on. If you have old 4x4s you will love this. If you never go off-road and used to modern IFS vehicles and live in the city and buying this cause you think it looks cool, you won't cope. Buy a Patrol or a Land Cruiser.

Buy one and then start building into a real 4x4 tourer if you want to tour this great land ..
$5k for a winch 🤣
Have another $50k spare to build into capable car, fix the steering and suspension and ride, ext fuel tank ( but still inadequate) fit out rear and add roofrack and RTT

Great to see a manufacturer building a solid axel 4wd. Imagine the front and back axel track width matching😉

A very fair review, Sam. A couple of little corrections …
1. I think you'll find that a reversing camera is standard on all Aussie spec Grenadiers.
2. The recovery points are rated at 4 tonnes (front) and 3.5 tonnes (rear).
3. There is not an option for electrically operated seats.

Having owned my Grenadier for over a year now, I can confirm that for me, the driver footrest is not an issue, and the steering is easy to get used to (other than perhaps the large turning circle).

Ps- perhaps this is the Austin Champ of design 🤔

I think its a mercedes G professional. That was 4x4 of the year….. until the fleet market saw it for what it was. Id like this to succeed but I doubt it

centre console impacts rear middle seat far too much for fifth person

A winch for only $5990. I'll buy two thanks.

i want this to succeed but only time will tell re reliability/dependability which are as if not more important re the bells and whistles.

Saw one in my neighborhood, and it was so beautiful.Definitely will be looking into these.

After a few minutes, the steering feels just fine. Yes it is a little different than most modern rack and pinion steering, independent front suspension designs but it is nothing like difficult to master and once you do… it is a non issue.