Redhawk-- the Diesel Cessna 172

Damn, a 172 or 182 with retractable gear would be the business! I would love to be able to toss in the wife and dogs and run up to see family. I would love to see what the aftermarket would come up with for these, take a Cessna, shoehorn in a R2.8 Cummins, sprinkle in some tuning, and finish with a stupid amount of boost!

Thank you for that informative video !

When I got endorsed in the 182, my flight instructor said that I would not want to fly anything smaller. He was right. A 172 is a nice plane, don't get me wrong. However, pretty much all the issues with a 172 were solved with the 182. You can actually put 4 people in a 182 and fly it. Don't ever try that with a 172. You won't rub elbows in a 182 with a co pilot, and the old saying does seem to ring true. If you can put it into the 182 and still get the doors to close, you'll get it airborne and fly it.

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I love this plane!!! I have everything diesel, even my lawn mower, and I didn't realize I could get a diesel Cessna!!!

I’m sure the cost of the src along with the performance deficiencies from lower power and limitations on climb out made it and unattractive option.

Fuel burn isn’t everything, especially when it comes at the expense of performance.

I’m the end and overall the consumer didn’t get anything better than what was out there already and that’s why it failed.

The conversion price in 2016 was over $250k, much of which is just the price of the engine. Continental is mum about the price of a new engine, but word is around $80k for the CD 155 (155 hp). The price of the CD 170 (170 hp) is likely closer to $100k, so Red Hawk is right when they say the concept was ahead of its time. A largely off-the-shelf Mercedes four-banger shouldn't cost as much as an M-250 turboprop engine. Actually, Red Hawk meant their pricing was price was ahead of its time, so it is not surprising that few opted for the TDI engine. There wasn't enough potential fuel and maintenance savings to offset the huge purchase price. Personally I'd love to have a jet-A-burning 220 hp turbodiesel in my Mooney, because the Continental engine powering it is outmoded, expensive, thirsty and fragile, but unless somebody figures out how to produce affordable alternatives, I'm stuck with it.

Lycoming still trumpets its 205 HP DEL-120, but it is non-certified, drone-only. Continental is selling TDI aerodiesels, but as mentioned, the price is prohibitive. Austro's mercedes-based TDI engines are proving to have good reliability and longevity, but again price is the stopper. While it is nearly impossible to find the retail price online, the only aircraft that uses it, the Diamond DA62 uses two of them and retails north of $1.3 million. And so the dream continues, unrequited.

Can you actually find diesel fuel at FBO's? Jet-A I get, but diesel?

With them phasing out 100LL at the end of this decade, Cessna should think about offering this engine again.

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Diesel is one of the most environmentally friendly energies with the technology available now!

Oh shit I came here to watch a video about diesel engines and I saw a picture of one my flight schools planes (N46188).

I LOVE the T-handle throttle! Would be awesome if one could convert their avgas Cessna to that throttle!

Great video. Very informative.

Where can one find one of these to buy?

If such good performance why not good on long distance flying ?? Just don’t make since !! What you hiding??

I recently had the chance to fly the Robin DR401 with this CD-155engine. This plane is wooden and therefore lighter than the C172, so the payload penalty is insignificant. The engine was fantastic. Efficient, the constant speed prop gives lots of power. I believe that now where the engine belongs to Continental, it finally gets the marketing power it deserves.

my flight school air harmony flies about 6 of these and I love them especially the throttle. Its a little bit different in the normal 172 layout but it flies so smooth, would def reccomend this aircraft!

Oh, and this doesn't dump lead from the aviation gasoline into the air, right?

Built for fuel savings.
If you can afford a plane, you can probably afford the fuel.

Not enough climb rate. Need more power.

some of the mercedes diesels can make a lot of power when modified. Wonder if they could get the om606 3.0 6 cylinder turbo diesel to work with it.

Just flew one of them at KJWN. Easy run-up, very quiet and smooth.

Did the first 20-25 hours of my PPL in Red Birds 101-103 ...I didn't know how amazing that fuel burn was until started flying standard 172's.

Just to be accurate it is "injectors instead of spark plugs" the glow plugs are more analogous to a choke for cold starting. Rudolf Diesel Invented timed injection. He did not invent high compression...

Actually, Cessna began production of the 172 in Independence, Ks. in '96

Turbo diesels..it’s about time…

What is Jet A1? Isn’t that a kerosene? Why are they not burning diesel in it if it’s a diesel engine?

The 172S was not considered the XP. That title belongs to the R172K. It was literally marked as Hawk XP. It came from the factory with a 210hp motor derated to 195hp

Diesel engine isnt suitable for aircrafts

The 6 popper is not less reliable that's a crazy statement.

You need a better microphone my left ear got a workout.

Great video for my deaf left ear

It would be cool to put Snow watermeth injection on it.

I saw a video of a cropduster (air tractor) severely modified to run a V12 diesel TRUCK engine. Running on Jet A, it was a real showpony, and could do a ballistic climb :)

Canada’s producing a V 12 Beaver airplane looks pretty nice

Actually, Cessna stopped production of the 172 in 1986. Production resumed in Independence, Ks. in 1996 and continues there to this day. They also produced the 182 and 206 there.

Great informative video thanx

What year did they make this video? 80s?

2022. But the music is old!

Stupid decision... Heavy engine in aircraft

did not hear him say 'CLEAR " before the start of the prop....

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There is a Turbo diesel firewall forward unit in a Wichita warehouse along with the original cessna that I've seen.

I learned how to fly in a 172

Always liked the Redhawk Cessna 172 always been a favor of mine. I really wish they kept making these. I think they would've done good if they could've figured out bigger jets or any jet liner at all would've been awesome. Maybe a small passenger one

Horrible flying airplane! Just a sloppy underpowered boring airplane!

I can understand why they would not be popular - pilots who were use to flying a 172 with 160 or180 HP compounded by not being able to use 100% power on take off would not be happy with the power to weight ratio of a 150.