Catalan crisis: Spanish court bars MPs' independence move - BBC News

Is anyone fooled by the grasping and corrupt rulings of this court, which has been punishing Catalonia for the past seven years? The Spanish fish is rotting from the head.

So how the EU treats people who want FREEDOM!

Independentists won't break Spain by the brute force, NEVER you NAZIS!! You law is illegal, against the constitution, STOP FASCISTS!!

Right, let's talk democracy. Doesn't democracy imply respect to law stemming from citizen sovereignty? On which principles should a country's educational system be based, on indoctrination since childhood? What about the media, is it okay to grant public funding to media tied to bodies of the executive power? Is it democratic to manipulate the media for political ends? And is it even possible to negotiate with someone who only wants to enforce his own goals? Economical strangulation, gang stalking, social pressure, school and workplace bullying and harassment - isn't all that violence, Catalonia?

Seeking independence on the basis of a referendum that had less then 50% participation is not a bright idea. Better to calm heads down and talk about constitutional reform. For instance turning Spain into a federation.

Prime Minister Rajoy will not Allow Spain to be Partitioned into Two Countries. Spain will be Part of CORE EUROPE. There will be 10 European Countries that Comprise the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. The Spirit of Late Dictator Francisco Franco is Alive and Well moving throughout Spain.

I see a lot of mixed opinions but the truth of the matter is everyone knows Catalona wants to be independent there is no need for referendum anymore. the only reason it's not happening is that then El pais Vasco would surely call for a referendum and leave (i reckon this will in turn trigger a series of independence referendums across many countries), this would simply leave Spain broke(er) than it already is as it loses its two greatest assets. I personally believe in Catalan independence a lot of people mention the US constitution but realistically Spain was bound by dictatorship and after Franco's death non of the borders or independence sentiment was considered and the government simply implemented a series of Democratic votes. The situation in Spain is not comparable to America where there is no long lasting tradition or even regional languages (not dialects). This part of Spain was always pro independence since it unified in 1516 and then when the civil war of 1936 broke out Catalonia almost unanimously fought for the communist side.

Cataluña is always in Spain and our King Felipe loves Spain and the spanish people, our king always loves united Spain, democracy, security and prosperity for spanish people, the king has said on TV that Cataluña always belongs and forms part of Spain and hopes this difficul trouble finishs very soon. Many people are not independent and don' t hate Spain and hopes the dangerous and revolutionary independent people are out of Spain or in prision if this people follows protesting, damaging the people feels Spanish and the police does not damage or hurt anybody, the policemen don' t hope fighting or hit nobody, they only hope the people don' t insulte or push people or to them too. Spanish people ot others places of Spain is surprised and amazing with this injustice and very sad trouble. Spain is my country and very proud of being Spanish woman. MANY PEOPLE OF SPAIN IS PROUD, HAPPY AND ADMIRES SPAIN, OUR COUNTRY AND CATALUÑA WILL NEVER BE INDEPENDENT. SPAIN IS UNITED. VIVA THE KING AND SPAIN.

How about Gibraltar ? How's that working out for Spain??

Kill their leaders

Brother Ares. The City of London is already independent and it's government, the uk is it's state.

England is the geographic area part of Great Briton, the uk is the occupying force.

The paper these people (news readers) read from, who gives it them, who writes it? Words are twisted.

The fact here is, chaos is being created in Europe by design.

My source says tanks and military vehicles are being moved around Spain right now.

The BBC are told what to say.

Spanish people have every right to get out of the EU

Good, it's what Spain deserves for brutalising people who just wanted to cast a ballot, the government should have just said they don't recognise the result, and for harassing Gibraltar all the time.

MAYBE THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF THE CLUTCHES OF THE CORRUPT NON ACCOUNTABLE EU
\Hows your immigrant import policy going Merkel ?

What the 13 American states did was illegal too. If they can pull it off its not illegal.

spain...just give them a free vote, what are you and the eu scared of... if the u.k had behaved like spain about scottish independence spain and the eu would have been first to queue to criticise....

Viva la unidad de España!!! A la chingada Cataluña!!! Long live the unity of Spain!!! To hell with Catalonia!!!

Democracy is dead in the eu.

free kashmir

If the people want it bad enough then the people must stand up to people for what they want at all cost, or they don’t want it at all.

Catalans need independence. In 2018 bavarians would want independence. Is this BRINGING US CLOSER AND CLOSER TO WAR??

BBC would know all about propaganda!

The Netherlands established freedom from Spanish rule (which was met with violence and repression from Spain) 400 YEARS ago.!! Why can´t the Catalans in 2017 have their freedom? And why is this brutal, awful violence against defenceless old people (in the best fascist tradition) not condemned by the EU? I thought te EU was about basic human rights, but it all appears to be a great lie.

¨Something is (very) rotten in the state of Denmark¨.

We Middle Easterns want democracy for Catalonia.

I'm so glad Spanish government isn't in UK. They wouldn't have had a Scottish referendum to find out Scottish people want to be part of UK or an EU referendum to find out people want independent UK

Catalonia should be free to vote for what the majority want , Catalonia is not the problem the EU dictatorship is,

People have been monumentally blind sided by this it is all about eu regionalisation agenda, working a treat. I dislike Spain but this whole thing is a mess and going to be like Kiev Maidan.

VISCA CATALUNYA

EU is an hypocrite institution, Where is the outrage from the EU for human rights and democracy? Why they support Kosovo?

If the rich can't remove it's self from cancer all is lost God tried to create a boat to save the world it cost was deep

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Both of them don't understand this: Entire Earth > Catalonia > Spain current state. If you go far out enough into space and look back, it's one "pale blue dot" as Carl Sagan put it beautifully. We are all in this together, we all share the same MRCA and their country was the entire Earth and so are we.

Do you know where I can find a transcription of this video ? :)

Kurdistan of Iraq, then Catalonia of Spain, whose next?

Good to see some countries still understand the concept of ruling a region and the importance of maintaining control over it.

I am from spain and I have looked at different foreign newspapers to see what they say, and I have only seen one part of the history. Por example here you have said 90% people voted yes to independence, but not that only 30% of the catalan population voted, as you can think Who has not voted probably would have voted no, so jugde it for you selfes and dont believe everything it is said in tv

Give Gibraltar Back!

Catalonia is going to create chaos. Catalonians need more beatings.

victory to the Catalonia,take up arms fight back never bow to oppression.

The psyco armadillos are taking over the world.

catalonians, declear independence! we‘d love to see you become a new nation in this world.

Their democratic vote is against the law but their police attacking the people isn't. Yeah I'm not on Spain's side, if they'd gone about it differently than maybe, I'm just not a big fan of governments acting like thugs when they don't get their way (although that is a trend in the west at the moment).

Hey BBC, where are the videos of the MILLION people at Barcelona, protesting yesterday against the independence movement and supporting the unity of Spain and the National Police and Guardia Civil?

Or aren't you interested in those? That's how professional you are.

Catalonian shit!

They don’t want to be apart of Spain. Why can’t the Spanish understand that.

Spain's Constitution reigns supreme! Fuck the separatist dogs! they're all corrupt! Catalonia will go back to normal once the dogs are out!

Catalonia is completely stopping democracy. This is the return of dictatorships in Europe.... Spain had its Franco, now Catalonia has his PUTCH DEMON...

A country that went to bed as a harsh fascist dictatorship with 250.000 political assasinations, including the entire Catalan governtment, during 40 years of Franco's ruling and woke up next day as a democracy, is set for failure.
It is also disturbing how Mr. Tajini, the far right president of the European Parliament is also putting off with poor excuses and banning Catalan leaders to speak in the European parliament.
This is another dangerous behaviour, and a massive push on the already powerfull Euro schepticism thinking.