Miles Davis Truly Hated Him More Than Anyone

Like Miles said, Wynton is a good trumpet player. No disrespect to Wynton for all the work he's put into jazz and music education and preservation of the history but, as far as artistic notoriety... the music industry made Wynton. Wynton was used to sell magazines, records and to milk a genre that many thought was as good as dead. IMO, he was too headstrong to notice it. It's fine to want to please your father but eventually you need to find a way to be your own man. Essentially, jazz is a renegade artform, an expression of the human soul breaking free from convention and running the risk of self-destruction. Wynton seems to have steered clear of that. This, IMO, is essentially why the two could not share the same stage. Somebody should have explained that to Wynton but they treated him like a "golden child". Why his father didn't tell him what time it was... I don't know. Maybe he thought he should find out on his own. I could respect that.

Mile's did not announce tunes in the 40s. When 🐦 Bird and. Dizzy did 2and 1½hr sets with long breaks half hr, 45 min to check out radio broadcasts and other clubs Miles played 45 min then 15 minutes break for restroom the format used after that. He never turned his back on audiences he Conducted the band like in classical orchestras. Sad that musicians input are not sought for interviews after an artist has gone

I share my birthday with Miles Davis 🖤😎

A) Miles is right. He doesn’t have anything EXTRA. B) WTF is there all the scratchy film shit? Annoying. Redo this without that damn effect, please.

I’m sorry but this sensationalized click bait clearly shows how little you really know about his music and and the importance of his contributions to jazz. Too bad. All the bad shit just doesn’t matter when you hear his beautiful tone that sings with the very best vocalists of all time. You hear anyone with a Harmon mute and you can’t help but think “Miles”. Marsalis can’t hold Miles’ mouthpiece. Not in the same league and never will be. The way Miles played the melodies is sublime, unique and cannot be copied and I’ve heard damn near everyone who’s tried, like NAT Adderly, while coming close never changed his style, while Miles moved on. How? His genius is in the bands he had, Birth of The Cool, works with Gil Evans, the First Great Quintet, the Second Great Quintet, The Fusion bands-In a Silent Way, the Marcus Miller collaborations. Each one marking a major era in jazz. Wynton is staid, preferring to live in the past, a museum curator of bygone music. Good for him but the comparison breaks down without that something extra. His music just doesn’t move me except to get up and choose something else.

this feels like an AI generated vid, aiming in part to throw shade at Wynton and a real shame to see so many jumping on the bandwagon trashing one of the great Trumpeters. I’ll take Lee Morgan over all of ‘em to be honest, but there’s no denying that Miles is the most important jazz trumpeter, period. But why stir up hatred against Wynton, who is a remarkable player and has done so much for Jazz? People need to stop this shit.

Enough with the fake film scratches effect-so annoying

Clickbait headlines use curiosity and other human emotions to generate clicks and increase video / website traffic. 😂 Gossip

Wynton Marsalis has been an arrogant asshole for the entirety of his career.

A.I. Artificial Intelligence. B.S.

There was no rivalry. Wynton was stuck in the be bop era--he found his calling in Classical, and plays for the faceless yuppies at Lincoln Center--good big band orchestral performances, but not riveting

Did they leave out the violence against Richard Pryor's wife, where she had a door slammed on her face, requiring plastic surgery?

Wynton has his own style and Miles had his own style...As long as they are keeping jazz alive..what's the problem.

Elwood Buchanan was black not white so fix it

This thing is all wrong do your home work before doing something on Miles PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

No; Miles did not despised Winton. He just was right on his perception that Marsalis doesn't stand as a musical star by his own but by abiding to whatever the musical culture dictates and this is counter Miles' paradigm on what an artist should be.

People are not allowed to be people and express their life experiences! "Just shut up and Play" comes to mind! This was more about the troubles of a great composer than it was about the musical legacies! Black people are always under the most server microscope and will/can only be accepted when living and revealing a certain way of life. And who has passed this test? Absolutely no one!

I get it, I don’t think Miles was jealous, I think that Wynton had a lot of learn, Wynton came up in a different time, only now in 2024 is Wynton developed the maturity of Miles. I got an arrogant vibe from Wynton more an academic approach.

Miles hated nearly everybody - especially if they were white, male and jazz musicians

Another stupid video trying to demean Black greatness. Both men made incredible contributions to Jazz, end off. Anything else don’t mean shit!

A rehash of previously presented information with video and photos that do not always coincide with what is being spoken.

In a Miles Davis documentary his daughter said: “Daddy listened to classical music at home.” It seems this fact is conspicuously left out. Sketches of Spain is based on classical music.

I really don’t like the use of the word hate in any of these post. Too strong of an emotion and I don’t think it’s ever appropriate to use or lead with. The reality of it all is we at times really don’t like this person or that person and that’s it! Stop using this word to get people’s attention!

Very talented both of them. I met Wynton in person. Had bit of a snobby attitude. Met Miles too. Cool as you can imagine.

I read in Downbeat Magazine that Miles even smacked a musician or two because he had been a boxer.

Yeah and Miles was such a flawless person. Stop this stupid shit, focus on the music.

Click bait video

Probably to Miles Wynton was a stick in the mud. Wynton is a great musician but he just might be a stick in the mud.

No one has the right to just walk onto another artists stage uninvited, regardless of stature. And especially in concert. Not to mention Wynton's didn't fit in stylistically with what Miles was doing. An example of a lack of self awareness mixed with hubris.

Ok, I know just a little bout this. Davis respected the Marsalis clan, but considered them too regimented in their approach. He felt they were trying to define jazz by wrapping it up in a tight little set of definitions, at a moment when he himself was mostly done with swing and bebop and ‘cool’ and all the other standard jazz forms that he had pioneered and was exploring the fusion of his modal approach with rock and pop. He considered what he was doing to be jazz, while the Marsalis clan considered it to be something else. Something too far outside the traditions of acoustic jazz.

Hence one of his early meetings with Wynton after Wynton had become something of a jazz superstar: “here come the police”.

I could believe that he despised Wynton, because to be honest, I never liked this guy that much. He was a good jazz musician but he was so arrogant and snooty. He thought he knew everything, even back when he was young. He was too conservative for me.

Al clickbait, dont waste your time

Read Herbie Hancock’s autobiography.

He has a whole chapter on Marsalis titled sarcastically, “The Man Who Would Save Jazz.”

It confirmed everything I thought about him.

Miles is a one of a kind artistic genius (not a over-hyped, football coach-type “genius”). His legacy will live on just as Beethoven’s has.

Marsalis is a pedestrian professional who wanted to turn jazz into a calcified museum for the uninitiated. He’s never played a note worth remembering or that stirred the soul.

Comments that Wynton allegedly made concerning Miles on the McLaughlin Group on PBS in 1990.

I love them both ,however I lean more towards Miles Davis ,but the Marsalis album Black Codes is a true classic .Miles is just in another league in my opinion .👍🏿

An so what 🧐💯🧐
Who give a damnnnnn
Get a life😡💯😡

Saw W at the height - bored silly 10 minutes in.

Wynton is a weirdo and an pseudo academic horn man - I can't stand him either 😂

Know one really knows this.

Davis was humble????

Miles is for ever.......the ultimate artist genius. wynton on the other end is a very good musician.

I concur

I met Wynton in Salt Lake City and we played a song together

Why can't they hire a human narrator? Hate this AI shit.

Why would you walk onto a stage uninvited during a performance! That is the height of disrespect! Wynton had no right to do that!!!!

HA
I KNEW IT .
WYNTON DEF SUX

These AI voices are getting OLD.

F-minus for script. Thumbs down. Tuned out.

Ellis really did a number on that boi...

He was a very awful man.