Steve McRae tells $50 patron: "F**k you! You're inept! I don't want your money!"

"I can do and say anything I want and no one should ever criticize me for it and I should never suffer any consequences as a result of my actions."

This is funny. Although I agree with Steve's argument about Kris being ridiculous, he does really overreact way too much here.

McRae's gonna need that 50 bucks now.

Dang Steve! Wooo sawwww

The whole reason for this conflict is because Steve wants to define atheism as a position where someone asserts there is no god, and others want to define atheism as a state of being without gods. Both definitions are equally valid as a definition is arbitrary. So the conflict never ends. The one plus one equals two thing exemplifies it. The popular definition of atheism (state of being) is analogous to a personality like Johnny Carson. The one plus one thing is analogous to counting two people. Counting two people is not equivalent to the being of Johnny Carson. You can't refute a state of being. So even though Steve is right about there being a philosophical definition of atheism he's also wrong because definitions are arbitrary.


Why does someone have to answer that they know 1+1=2? They don't. It's common knowledge these days. It's irrelevant to the debate because definitions are arbitrary. It doesn't matter how many philosophers define it when future etymology takes primacy. I believe there is merit to a strict philosophical definition of atheism, but the content of this video is not the way to promote it.

I understand Steve's frustration when someone is so far down the rabbit hole that he can't say he "knows" 1 + 1 = 2. I just wish Steve wouldn't be so quick to throw around words like "integrity" and "honesty" when some of his own financial dealings are so questionable.

Steve doesn't care about animals and animal rights. That's not nice.

What a dick.

Funny claims to only have a income of 400 dollars a month, bullshit. These people are all scammers just like hovind

Steve's frustration seems valid. People who take your energy by making arguments just to be contrarian are like vampires. Kris would not answer Steve's simple question just so he could continue the energy sucking argument. $50 a month to take crap from disingenuous people isn't even close to worth it.

This video doesn't show a compilation of Kris being disingenuous. That would help for context.

Does anyone realize that how much is 1+1 is considered a trick question in some instances? Look into it. Chris, you are giving 50 bucks a month to someone who talks to you like you're less than dog crap. Come on man. Hey Steve, since you feel the same way about Kyle, you should tell him to keep your 50% because you don't want any money from someone like him. After all, your integrity is more important than any 50%.

Many people aren't deserving of diplomacy.

Well, that escalated quickly. I was hoping to get an answer to anything he knows but does not believe. That would be akin to a married bachelor or some other contradictory impossibility. Would have been an interesting squirm or word salad.

This was horrible to watch, Steve was so condescending and is bullying that guy. Why are the others saying nothing?

good for steve. i mean seriously cudos.

I know, so it is no longer a belief. Steve seems not to understand words.

I don’t think Kris really understood all that was being said and feel that if Steve wants to start a Science channel all about educating people he really should try to hold his temper and help by explaining things instead of losing his temper and telling someone who has given him 50 usd to stop giving you any money.
At the very least I’d have said it was very generous of you to give me so much money in the past but I feel I can’t take any further money from you because I disagree with most of what you say so vehemently.

Steve acts like f'ing Nathan Oakley.

So is this what causes Kyle to react so crazily

WoW!! a bully giving up his lunch money 🤪

i have to disagree with steve - it is a definition thing and he should kniw it because he plays very similiar definition games with other people like Aaron Ra.
knowledge is a subset if believe or the other way round depending on definition. If we say ultimate knowledge you have that - you dont believe in it anymore. Show me examples where we can be 100% sure and KNOW for certain. steve, you know that one you use it yourself cause we cant know anything for 100% sure. not even maths though its close.
and when you arent 100% sure all that is left is reasoned believe...
So answer your question. do i know 1+1=2? NO. and if you say you are you are an ignorant idiot. Take binary, 1+1=10

Steve is a lying drama queen who will say or do anything to stir up his little following and get more money from them.

When the internet becomes your life, and you think you’re way more relevant than you are.

"You don't have a functional listing skill...". Steve this man is literally throwing you money, why would you even go there. I get that we all argue, even with people you've known your entire life. Insulting someone like that, is Kent Hovind low. Yes I know I'm 6 months late, but Steve STFU and learn how to treat people with a common decency. Especially if they are giving you money.

Omg....is he serious!?! There are plenty of things that I know to be true, that I don't believe in!

Meanwhile, Nick the wimp watches...

Haaaa "agnostics"... Just as bad as "gods-believers". But they don't know...

Should Kris have been able to answer that question? Yes.

Did Steve come across as an aggressive, impatient bully? Absolutely.

The irony? Steve is giving himself/atheists a bad name while accusing someone else of doing so. Poor form.

What a nasty peice of work! I wouldn't answer him after he started shouting at me either, everyone sat back in disbelief, how can anyone defend Steve's behaviour here!

How is kris dishonest. Steve ur a POS

Soo... You're gonna disown somebody because they disagree with you on something?? What a douchenozzle. He can't answer if he knows that question, so fuck him?? Are you serious?? Did he hurt you? Try to manipulate you? Am I missing context here? Why wouldn't you let an idiot be a patron? He can LEARN.

Steve needs his own daycare

Steve is the man!

Holy shit it’s Darth McRae

Steve is a nobody eking a living in California.
Embroiled in a lawsuit.
Dreaming about the day he will rule NSS with an iron fist and his feeble brain.
Dreaming about the day the new, revamped NSS will attract tens of thousand willing to discuss his WASP argument.
Maybe "My life on a US nuclear ship (now decommissioned) as a mechanic." has more potential for NSS.
We could see Steve discussing the fine points of the different types of logic with his mates while hammering rivets.

How do you know something without believing it?
Quite simple, Dipshit Steve. I know what the Christian god is based on what Christians claim, but I do not believe in their claim due to insufficient support for their description of what their god is in reference to reality.

Wow and I'm socially unaware...

This dude is obsessed with losing a debate with sye ten and now he cannot just understand semantic vs practical philosophy. It sucks when you go "oh shii this dude saying something new and interesting" then you finally go "oh, my bad, just another insecure boomer"

Well this was a funny throwback

Steve got angry and showed his White Supremacy put the black man down insult his intelligence made him feel inferior in front of his all white friends who sat cringing saying nothing nore did they leave in protest. do you need anymore proof Steve is racist? lets get some experts to review the footage and see what they have to say what they see taking place.

Steve calling anyone dishonest is hilariously ironic.

To be fair ... Ocean is a catastrophically stupid person.

It might be worse that dude just sat there and took it like a little fucking bitch.