Confronting CamGirl on The Ethics of OnlyFans (Aella Interview)

Why do people who call her a sex researcher? Does she have any type of degree or know how to do proper research? I don't believe she does. You could say she surveys her fans about sex. That would be more accurate.

original & fascinating takes.

So good so true so real

“Men are expendable” I can't imagine if man would say this about women being expendable. Also, the way they're laughing about men not dying off in the wars is cringey.

Tall, hot and horse d are the only things women actually want

Should we remove shame from pedos

A healthy amount of jealousy is a good thing in a relationship

98% of open relationships fail

Women will always lose attraction and respect for you if you allow her to sleep with other men

If you need other people to fulfill you sexualy then your partner is the right person to be with

This is the fall of society

Even if I win I lose... Was that a Crowley reference?

Very insightful interview! My take on Onlyfans mostly aligns with Aella's view. It is a symptom of society telling women they don't need men but not telling men they don't need women.

I think the truth is actually that the genders still need each other, it's just harder to see now due to our current technology.

Men are more inclined towards risk-taking, less agreeable, etc. Women are more nurturing, more emotionally aware and, in my experience, give better warnings than men. These are psychological traits that still greatly complement each other in todays world, in both professional and romantic contexts.

Oh right so she wanted the men to not dehumanise her while she still expected to dehumanise them by taking their money.

I get the feeling if someone snapped their finger and made all men disappear overnight, people could suddenly come up with a whole host of answers to the question "why men?" lol, but whoooo knows

There are so many lies here it will be difficult to untangle them all without an hours long analysis

Makes me angry listening to her dishonesty attempting to defend the sex industry, whilst also consistently claiming she is a "hyper honest" person in other interviews. She could simply be in denial that she is profiting off of the vulnerability of lonely guys and maybe doesn't want to beleive that her wealth has accumulated at the expense of other people. It's EXACTLY the same dynamic as a drug dealer profiting off of people addictions. Of course people like Aella will always defend their actions, but the reality is she's not helping people develop skills and confidence for healthy relationships. Aella has recently created her own AI girlfriend too, which I imagine she will sell to make money, just like her other content

She comes off as a sleaze to me. I didn’t believe a word of what she said, but I believe she believes every word of it. Major creep vibes from her.

This is fascinating!

Only Fans is a low-maintenance version of an old industry that goes back centuries. It's a guaranteed business. For a guy to stay stimulated, they would need to keep seeing new women. The eye is not full for seeing.

With respect to the question of how we should empower men (if we are empowering women) beyond just giving the men artificial wombs so that they can create families without women -- in the same way that women can create families without men -- would be to provide avenues of success and societal support for those avenues. For example, to glorify trades work and entrepreneurship as avenues to success, support them economically by investing in schools for these AND shaming women who try to shame blue collar professionals. We would also need to reverse systemic anti-male discrimination in policing (Duluth Model, for instance) and in family law (a woman-centric best interests of the child standard for custody and the inability to contract for child support, for instance). In the same vein as we have to "teach men not to rape", we need to "teach women not to falsely accuse" and actively punish those who do.

can you possibly interview more sex workers?

a whore is a whore and can never ever be trusted. her opinion does not matter.

daddy AND mommy issues here. I relate.

So, this is something you might like to know Charlie: i read somewhere that in the more developed countries the reasons for romantic union is less about power/status/societal reasons and more about love/happiness, in other words, psychological needs. This goes to show that man and women do need each other in psychological ways, not just for reproduction/raising kids or other cultural reasons. A good parallel to the sex work is fast food: it's not the source of the problem, it's just a capitalist oportunity to feed the hungry without giving them appropriate nutrients for the body. My personal take on what will happen is that world-wide governments will start to normalize laws that deal more directly with people's relationships starting with the young at schools. much like it is ilegal to have adult entertainment open in daily TV or on streets because kids shouldn't see them.

What is labelled here as dehumanization is the norm in all customer service jobs.

Shes not autistic shes ADHD, which also has different kind of thinking its super obvious.

Truth! I got hooked on O/F for a couple of weeks and quit cold turkey because I dropped so much coin trying to win a girl's heart I didn't even know. It's scary how good these women are at their job. She doesn't love you, hell, she doesn't even like you: meanwhile; she is getting smashed by the guy she really wants, and you foot the bill. I was lucky enough to snap out of it. The worst part is, I still think about her.

this is actually a great conversation, how does this only have 25k views

Wow, he talks a lot...

She's disgusting.

Not often that a guest can consistently give answers even more interesting than what you'd estimate given the question, on any podcast for that matter

The girl is not young or attractive.

What’s up with the title? It has not much to do with the conversation..

you talk too much ! She is not your therapist, you are the interviewer ! your longwinded blabbering is garbage

Game of Thrones glamorized incest. It made it a topic of conversation because the show was SO POPULAR. I would guess it had a broader impact on society than anyone has realised.

Surely it is not an unreasonable boundary to ask that sex with other people happen at locations where the jealous party is not. That's just courtesy.

The significance of sex is often downplayed by people who have endured abuse or trauma, as a way to minimize its importance and avoid confronting the impacts of their experiences. The fact that society is so focused (or should I say obsessed) on the topic of sex shows just how big a deal it really is.

It's always so interesting listening to Aella.

She's right, step-porn is for cowards

She's so graciously cute

Respect both parties in this especially conpetitive game of frames when Aella mentions the cycle of Samsara.."desire" she says it's all a part of the game. Yet Charlie is reeling away from the Demiurge called life's wishes....his own "desires"

I've been saying for some time that the "whore of Babylon" biblical analogy seems to apply to this situation where "men are no longer necessary".

Whether its men or women, children etc, a brat is a brat. It's a spoiled mentality that sees other people as "expendable". The language hints at the supply and demand issue that belies the problem. In western countries, essentially yes, men aren't needed much by comparison to historical norms.
The whore of Babylon comparison, doesn't apply specifically to people doing sex work, or even just to women or to human beings, the concept of a city which is decadent and about to enter a cultural decline, equivalent to a person who's similarly natured, is also discussed in the old testament in the story of King Solomon's empire at the end of his life, where it dawns upon him that his empire will decline as the result of him not having raised his children to run it responsibly after his passing, etc.

Onlyfans, like all porn, is a sex/ romance simulator, a game for people to play whilst they await the real thing entering their life. Disney movies and romance novels are a similarly popular with women. There's nothing inherently unhealthy about it, but we're at the point where its now a societal pathology.

As with all supply and demand issues, the solution is to not try to "sell ice to Eskimos". Like looking for a suitable job, find the market you're valued in, and reap the benefits of catering to a market where your qualities are in demand.
Similarly for women, such as China for example (historically at least) where female children were minimised by parents wherever possible, those same women were highly valued in western society, and hence we have a lot of them, because they were smart enough to realise they had better opportunities in the west.

Failure of course to address societal issues of these kinds can result in the decline of that society. Revolutions are usually similar for reasons such as kleptocracy or authoritarian rule etc.

she wants u bro tfff

I actually think more about the heat death of the universe than about the "game". :D