The Toxic Dragonage Community On Twitter

thats not Who she is, She would not give a fuck. she would say sorry and move on. lol

If people say sorry and you immediately think they are just trying to get it over with so you have to go into an entire discourse as to going the extra mile to apologize that's literally no different than kissing someone's boots. And kissing someone's boots because you wanted to fuck up something as simple as pronouns then you are a tyrant.

I dont feel sorry for you trying to engage with people on twitter. Theres never going to be a good faith attempt to understand your point of view. Just don't do that.

Im convinced that the writers are severely emotionally stunted

Involution of Isabela

Of course the left views exercise as punishment.

Utter and absolute cingemus maximus, no rwo ways about it. But no matter how obvious, vertain people cant seem to see it.

Those people are sick in the head. I'd say they are brainwashed by that requires a brain to wash.

Next you’ll get a fantasy game talking about the Trump / Harris elections.

Gotta draw a penis on the last image of her hahahaha

Can't get much more clear evidence that this game was made by a bunch of talentless cultists who hate stuff like basic biology and it seems to me women in particular and they force their beliefs into this game ruining isebella and multiple other characters and the setting itself because must worship them and their beliefs or we are terrible people despite any sane person would be against what they support like the mutilation of people

isn't the Maker male in the Dragon age universe?

Why are black people always the example used ? Black people do not play games like this or care about stuff like this

RIP, Dragon Age.

Don't bother trying to educate normies. If they could be educated they would have learned something over the last twenty years. Just call them enablers and move on.

Leftists think making all brown women wear du-rags is the best way to represent brown people lmaooooo

The dialog options are like: I agree, We are in accord, I don't disagree.

This dialog was written by a middle aged women

You can hear the moment the NPC programming kicks in. “Ah. Sh*t. They.”
I wonder if she ever “pulled a Bharv” for anything she did in DA2? Not a chance!

I counted 4 pushups?

The dialogue in Origins felt like it could actually come from an old book or a fairy tale. It was high quality and well-written.

Veilguard makes me unsettled in how little care is given to the world. They care more about pronouns than the supposed fate of the world.

I didn't know that was Isabella, I thought it was one of the transgender companions 😅. She so masculine and manly now 💩

If my warden was there she'd have dressed down both of them, Isabele for being Hypocrites and Taas for being a weakminded liability, she doesn't have the time to worry about someone's pronouns when Darkspawn are trying to eat your limbs. She didn't help slay an archdemon to put up with this BS.

Why did she only do 5 bad pushups they weren't even good form 😅

Most characters have the body of a teenage boy. Can't even make a sexy character in the creator if you tried.

It really does come off as an episode of Veggie Tales, except Veggie Tales is funny sometimes.

“You can’t use ____ as example because ____ said so and I don’t like it!”
Such a Xitter way of thinking.

Remember when Dragon Age was about Darkspawn? This is just generic fantasy fluff dancing through the forest baking bread and singing like there are no stakes or any real concern

Wat those are all the same character ???

On a side note can we please stop with the completely pointless pauldrons. Armoring the shoulders when the neck and stomach aren't even clothed is the height of fantasy armor idiocy.

Laughable.

Wait a good damn second. THAT'S ISABELLA????? WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY PRECIOUS CHAOTIC NEUTRAL PIRATE QUEEN

Vailguard is a trash game. Horrible

What’s hilarious and really ironic about that scene is them talking about “insincerities” with apologies, and how people will make it about themselves or brush it off. But then she starts doing Push ups and talks about her story, literally making the apology about Herself. Very ironic and really dumb honestly lol

No option to just not ask anything about it though

Makurspantiz

they needed to break the games in 5th sequals to show the difference and how to understand what is woke - thanks for elaboration

Look what they did to my girl the massacre my girl

THAT'S ISABELLA!! No that's not her. She looks different, sounds different, and acts different. There is no way they say that is the same character from DA 2.

The Darkspawn can have Thedas. Clearly it was a mistake to save it.

What the fresh hell is it with the stupid hats in this game?? As if the rest of it isn’t bad enough we also get to look at horrible head wear.

She always sucked. Now she sucks even more.

I showed my roommate, who isnt a gamer at all but shes seen me play DAI, the Taash dinner scene and she just sat there with the most confused look like 'this isnt real' 😂😂😂

That twitter random is literally using that debate tactic of exhausting you by deflecting, obfuscating and discrediting

Hold on, they technically misgendered the Maker!

Ten pushups do little to nothing in the way of saying you're sorry. They only enhance your physique and don't even directly face or address or acknowledge the "victim" at all. They don't punish you it's actually good for your health to do them. So, they are incapable of serving the purpose assigned to them in this scene. There is more amusing anti-logic here than appears at the surface of this pushup idea. Let's look deeper at it for jollys.

The writers here betray their belief in the notion that apologies are exchanged to benefit the offender instead of the wronged party. That their purpose is to set straight those who go astray and not to make whole those who got damaged by it. This is a complete reversal of how justice systems are oriented and how the concept of justice is defined and applied. Apologies are nothing more than justice being practiced voluntarily.

She lays out the basis for this nonsensical idea by noting that speaking the words can be done without being sincere about the apology. Or stated another way, one can never trust a verbal apology to be delivered with sincerity. This is the first fundamental support for the idea. It is wrong but not outlandishly so. You can maybe envision a person so vacant of perceptive ability that they might reasonably come to this conclusion. Somehow 10 pushups that only benefit me and never acknowledge your existence cannot be completed insincerely. Or stated another way, detached physical exertion affording zero attention onto the offended is the only way apologetic intent can be delivered with guaranteed sincerity to the offended party, who is ignored, even shunned, during this event. And here is the second fundamental pillar. A bit less sturdy I reckon. I'm very confident I have not misinterpreted the kindergarten teacher by paraphrasing as I have done.

If they wanted something like self-flagellation the way the character describes the purpose of this ridiculous undertaking, then they should be using a cattail or a blade or something sharp & pointy that draws blood and leaves scars and inflicts punishment and physical harm to a degree that will never be forgotten. How does ten pushups get stuck in your long-term memory? Misgendering is a three-scar offense, for example. Something carrying the meaning and weight which have been stripped away by eliminating the verbal component. That's how you show them you mean it by punishing yourself instead of simply apologizing. Not a ten second health club exercise carried out on the other side of the room in silence. Unless you pull a muscle or throw out your back or something, you will never remember one damn detail about any of those ten pushups. But you'll never forget every morsel of minutia about those three scars. "The Bar" is the perfect name for this convoluted scheme since it was invented by a drunkard during an unhinged bender. I wonder if it's legal to switch out the pushups for a hundred-yard dash? Then it could be a Bar Run.

Ten pushups can only ever manage to be equally as sincere as apologizing directly using words only when you also speak words directly addressing your victim while doing them or by doing them specifically at the behest of the victim's spoken demand. Otherwise, they are less sincere since they fail that acknowledgement test and the direct face to face personal confrontation test that addressing them sincerely, directly, and personally entails. They are a much more abstracted & indirect type of apology than are the words.

Pushups conceal what you are thinking. Verbal apologies expose it. Because of this, and since sincerity exists only inside of brains in the form of thoughts, a verbal apology exposing them is far more capable of drawing it out than a pushup concealing them ever will. The message sent by a pushup is unspecified and indeterminate and must be deduced, deciphered, estimated, presumed. By switching from words to pushups you are, in the best most ideal case, only exchanging suspected insincerity with presumed sincerity. Most of the time you will be able to do better than just suspected insincerity when using words. But you will always and forever be stuck with nothing more definitive than presumed sincerity from the pushups....a presumption identically valid to one presuming insincerity instead.

Sincerity is by nature reliant upon perception. Perception is bounded by 5 senses. Apologies do not involve taste or smell. Sometimes touch but not always. In the scenario presented it does not. So, this leaves only 2 senses left to perceive the sincerity of the communication, namely sight and sound. When you do the pushup deal, you sacrifice one of these and possibly both as it is never clarified that The Bar must be done in any specific place or time. Maybe doing it in private a week later is accepted, I can neither verify nor discount this. There is a loss of the eye contact critical to perception of sincerity by doing pushups, so I think it is fair to say you are really sacrificing somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.6 or 1.8 of your 2 available senses by agreeing to behave like a lunatic. Better perception through sensory deprivation is a new one. Apologies are a bidirectional communication. The apologist must be able to perceive what impact his apology is making in order to tailor it on-the-fly to be sufficiently impressive. The pushups deprive both parties of valuable critical feedback from each other. All of this diminishes the usefulness and capability of the apology as a communicative tool almost to the level of making the whole charade of justice pointless and insufficient. To do pushups you first must turn away.

The pushups are actually a much easier, more convenient way to cop out of betraying your insincerity than the words are when that is your aim. They are something you can be motivated to do anytime regardless of whether or not you are sorry for anything. They make the act of contrition enjoyable and invigorating instead of profound and introspective. This is because it is far, far easier to judge sincerity based upon which words are chosen and the demeanor in which the apology is presented than by observing the effort exerted doing silent perfectly delineated and standardized exercises, presuming they are performed within line-of-sight. One verbal apology can be distinguished from another. Pushups are perfectly uniform and perfectly indistinguishable from one another. How is one expected to distinguish a sincere pushup from an insincere one? With verbal apologies at least this becomes possible.

Saying "Oops, sorry" is insincere because all effort spent carefully selecting the words used was totally avoided, even mocked, and it is the flippant delivery she showcases in her analogy which betrays the truth, not the fact she does it verbally. Adding in wild gestures. Same insincere intent can be communicated using offensive gestures while apologizing with carefully chosen words delivered respectfully. How does putting the exact same lack of concern and effort and intent into pushups going to make anything different at all? The only benefit seen is awarded to the offender who gets a health buff out of it. The offended gets zip. Not even eye contact. It is a type of punishment that achieves the opposite of being punishing and delivers no justice or compensation to the injured party. There is no acknowledgement whatsoever that they are even involved in any way. Not to mention it relegates authority to set appropriateness and severity of punishment into the hands of the convicted. You've been found guilty of assault. Now it's time to choose how much and what type of punishment you are willing to bear for what you did, and how much compensation you are willing to part with to make your victim whole again while never speaking to them or looking at them...please be fair.

As inclusive as these bozos presume themselves to be, this pushup solution they've invented also fails to account for those who are incapable of doing pushups. A pretty damn hefty oversight if you ask me. Evidently, cripples are not capable of being sincere at all, and injury, infirmary, disease, and epidemic postpone all apologies and sincerity within the society until resolved. Depending on severity, you could regularly get stuck waiting decades for sincere apologies for various transgressions. People in beds cannot be sincere. Which is likely to inject a major kink into breeding activities and population maintenance. It also links sincerity directly with strength and vitality, so it cannot ever be an equal application of the rule. The weak can only be fractionally as sincere as the strong. This imbalance isn't significant for ten pushup offenses but manifests a distinct disadvantage for 250 pushup offenses. So, the system does not scale very well at all with respect to the vast diversity found amongst the actual population submitting to it, rendering it practically arbitrary.

This scene is loaded with straw men. Oops, sorry being one of the most blatant standardized examples. Likewise, the "long drawn-out apology" line which presupposes it is somehow taking much longer to speak a couple of statements than doing ten pushups takes. Again, this statement is given as the foundation for the arguments that follow. We exhibit this twisted behavior because of this one specific reason here. Must be a long one alright. It's an apology for Pete's sake, not a campaign speech. Two or three sentences max. Slower than ten pushups? Wha??? In the same amount of time it takes to do ten pushups, you could repeat your apology twenty or thirty times no sweat. So, which is more sincere, ten regulation pushups directed nowhere or thirty repetitions of a carefully crafted personalized and unique apology directed specifically at the person wronged? There are more straw men here than characters discussing them. Every concept they beat against. They spawn in faster than rats and zombies combined.

Poor Romanian.