NOBOX7 Makes hydrogen and Gets Thunderfooted

Not saying you're not making hydrogen, but the orange colour is from metal ions contaminating the flame.
Clean hydrogen burns with a almost invisible blue flame, but any steel near it and it gets orange.

Seeing your video 3 days ago i had to google hydrogen propane and it is a well known and used way to make hydrogen from propane, methane, gasoline, plastics and more by heating it between 850 to 1000°C
Most hydrogen made in the world is from heating LPG gas, and injecting some water steam.
And the black carbon you get in the pipe is a evidence that you went ABOVE 1000°C and really made hydrogen.

So 100% you made hydrogen, but the colour is from the steel getting hot and releasing ions.
Same if you use a refractory cement around it there is sodium and other ions that also gives a yellow/orange flame no matter what gas you use.

If you used copper fire tube it would be a green flame instead 😏

God Bless you man always the eduKated fixing us all up .. oh well

If you sit in an office and read a few books, hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. Meanwhile in the real world.

Hydrogen has emission lines at 410 nm (violet), 434 nm (blue), 486 nm (blue-green), and 656 nm (red). I feel sure 2,500F is enough to begin to get some emission.

Edit: and this doesn't even factor in what temps/emission lines for nitrogen, oxygen and argon...

Did not know that fool's proverb but it is a an excellent one. As to educate these people they can easily (as there are many such videos) look how lithium "burns" in water, releasing hydrogen (in the oxidation reaction) and with what color this hydrogen gas burns. Knowing little chemistry goes a long way, and clearly no one can know everything, but a good researcher is always humble and lets nature show the way.

it's hydrogen. cracked off the carbon backbone. that's why there is carbon buildup. what's wrong with folks🤦‍♂️

now make it 5x as large and use a lpg line from the ground because you really really need a 1mw burner ... trust me

im so surprised you managed to get carbon forming on the inside, even at such glowing temperatures but i guess there's no oxygen to burn it off internally, like i thought gas would never leave any residue (little ash maybe) so there is definitely something happening in there as carbon is dropping out of the gas

Looks like a hydrogen flame to me. Really great work......Great explanation also......

Every time I tried to put my head above the water of idiocracy and thought or did something "new" I got criticized. It's a test of leadership capacity, you passed it.

If you Google the Spectral Lines for hydrogen, the biggest one is in exactly that shade of orange. It's expensive, but you could buy a mass spectroscopy machine, or you could use a prism to split the light from the flame and maybe you can see the lines for yourself.

Thats okay, we enjoy your videos no matter what the reason is for your making them.
Makes me think of the
"educated " people who say split wood doesn't dry out any faster than unsplit wood.

Hey! Collect it in the baloon and see if it floats.
Then collect 22,4 liters of that gas, burn it in closed vessel, you should collect 18g of liquid.

I used to like Thunderfoot, he had some good points and was correct on a lot of things.
But he shifted to debunking everyone and apparently can't stop chasing the YT views.
He hasn't been good or relivent for almost 10 years.

It definitely looks like a hydrogen flame. The orange color flame in hydrogen is mostly from impurities and other gases. Hydrogen will burn nearly clear in pure oxygen. But the Earth’s atmosphere is a mixture of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, airborne particulates from the environment, pollution, other gases, etc. These gases could cause a slight orange flame. Carbon from the that may have slipped past the cracking process could be contributing to the flame. However, the flames from his burner is not a super bright orange/yellow flame that would indicate the presence of carbon. Metals can release gasses at high temperatures which could contaminate the flame, such as the green flame that comes from burning copper. But again, I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. Most experiments can have potential variables that require explanations.

So what has been lost ? The ASTOUNDING 2500 degree flame heating without oxygen boosting - the new INVENTION that was spun up since NB7 told us he was breaking out of the shell again.
PEOPLE FREAK OUT WHEN WINNERS STRIKE IT BIG.
Some big mouthed multi millionaire know it all should come over to NB7s place and run the science test on the flame composition.

Tell them to eat your ass bro your a champ I can't tell you anything about hydrogen flames or anything about it but people are always going to say whatever garbage they want thinking they know what they are talking about. Don't let them get to you

You have to be careful about feeding the trolls. They're always hungry.

I’m no chemist, but if you have carbon deposits when you are heating Propane what else is left from the propane? Surely you have to have some hydrogen flame as there is only carbon and hydrogen in the gas to start with. I’m not saying you have 100% cracked the Propane to Carbon and H2 but you must be getting some?

Have you tried Methane? Probably not easy to get hold of unless you have a bio digester in your back garden. 😂

Anyway keep up the great work and get version 2 (or is it 3) of the burner out!

its funny how people care so much what others say about them..

I figured it was just some impurities in the stream that got left over. If anything at all gets into the stream, it would change its color.

Maybe the confusion boils down to thermal radiation vs electron emmisions falling into electron shells.

Everyone is aware that flames containing copper ions glows green from the emissions from electrons falling into their electron shell and give off light of a very specific wavelengths. Lithium and sodium ions and every element gives off their own uniqe colors. Most of Hydrogen ion emissions spectra is largly beyond our vision in ultra vilote 545nm and deep blue 670nm but some electron jumps canstill can emit green at 830nm and red at 1563. But, the thermal radiation from molecules bouncing off other molecules glows in a black body radiation pattern of a whole bunch of colors (frequencies) with its peak emmision related to the temperature. This point, thermal radiation, and volume of air heated, also explains the color difference and brightness or and visibility between an open flame and combustion chamber in sunlight.

One more point to consider. There is molecular hydrogen gass that's different than atomic hydrogen. I could be wrong but I don't think we're dealing with atomic hydrogen spectra.

Cool the gas down, fill it into a balloon.
It's that simple: if it floats, it sure isn't helium.

Man i agree with you 100%,

thubderfoot managed to downplay Spacex successfully catching the booster this morning. You don't need to worry about that guy.

At the end of the day does it matter if it's hydrogen vs some mix of hydrogen and probably ethane and acetylene (100 years of hydrocarbon research would say it's unlikely to be pure hydrogen)? You have a method for making a high temperature flame.

Might wanna blur your monitor edges, you doxxed your buddy Todd...

LMFAO cant believe you know about Sam!

Just a reminder - they are "internet chemists" 😂
Most likely unemployed in real life, and no, an allowance from mom, is not employment...

Pure hydrogen burned uncontaminated is blue. You are making dirty hydrogen as evidenced by the carbon buildup.

Perhaps buy a cheapo spectrometer and get the precise lines measured, you can buy these things for about $60 these days. Soot will show up as a wide peak (a continuum) and there are plenty of sources that list the H2 spectral lines (NIST etc). The problem with just looking at the color is that it will depend upon the lighting conditions, camera settings, etc.
This is a great project and it would be good to conclude it with some definitive results that can end this discussion...
I won't post links, but if you look on my channel, you can find where to get some super low cost spectrometers, and also some experiments I have done with them...

100% you've got hydrogen in your setup. I have seen enough hydrogen burning to know that what you are saying is correct. Pure H2 in open air has an almost subtle pink flame, but with the chamber you've got a little carbon incandescence.

LoL, using one of your own videos as evidence to prove your point. Freaking hilarious. Troll Goat

Haha, DEI hire showed you invisible hydrogen flames. That's pretty good.

A really easy and indisputable way to test this is to seal the gas you produced in a glass test tube, and zapping it with a cheap amazon tesla coil, then viewing/filming through a cheap spectroscope. This whole setup will cost less than $100 and give you very clear results!

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All that aside how is the carbon build up problem solved? Is it an air only cycle that happens 1 minute out every 5 to burn it off? Or is too much heat lost that way during my manganese steel melt.

I know who Thunderf00t is and i suspect you are a man of intellectual honesty so I don't doubt you. (plus, I have no idea what this is about or what the applications for this are)

How many people called Todd Prehoda?

This one is definitely a hotly debated topic. Yes hydrogen burning slightly rich in air is orange to the surprise of many. Most people are only used to seeing it burn super lean which is dim violet from the oxygen and like an alcohol fire is difficult to see in sunlight.

The red spectra of hydrogen is well known

Thunderfoot is the worst, sorry you gotta deal with that.

Former Thunderfoot subscriber here. That dude used to make some pretty cool science videos. Then he went woke and his mind got infected by Trump and Musk Derangement Syndromes. Sadly most of his videos have devolved into anti-Musk screeds. Musk just caught a returning booster mid air! His cars are all over the road here in California. His Starlink satellite comm is helping Ukraine fight a war. And he’s about to rescue the NASA astronauts that Boeing left stranded on the space station. Criticism from his army of Thunderfools is a badge of honor.

You can hear how pissed you are. Take a breath. Relax in just knowing your correct. Not your job to fix idiots.

Does hydrogen burn orange?
“Hydrogen burns with an invisible flame, but in practice, the impurities in the air make it appear orange. In the future we will likely add an odorant, just like we do with natural gas, as well as a colourant so flames can be seen and leaks can be detected by smell - just like natural gas,” says Raman.Jul 6, 2022